Posted by Sean :: 
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:: Dec 23, 2003 08:40am
:: :: Dec 23, 2003 08:40ammust be said, the image is teh funneh!
aboyandhiscomputer.com is a great website and it depends on sad ppl like this to make it what it is :D
lol
aboyandhiscomputer.com is a great website and it depends on sad ppl like this to make it what it is :D
lol
Posted by helpimstuckinalittlebox :: :: 
:: Jan 17, 2004 05:40pm
:: :: Jan 17, 2004 05:40pmhey "juan" you fuck stick. he can put whatever he wants on his website. its part of his first amendment. something even "dubya" understands. go whine somewhere else.
Posted by E_B_A :: :: :: Dec 21, 2003 06:49pm
:: :: Dec 21, 2003 06:49pmIt's funny. If you have even a rudimentary understanding of political scapes then you know that the extreme of Liberalism is COMMUNISM and the extreme of Conservatism is FACISM and not the other way around. Italy was a facist state during World War II and they were quite conservative. Big business ruled the lives of the common people and the military ran through the streets gunning down or arresting unpatriotic peoples. Although we are not there yet, that is the direction, sadly to say, that our country is headed.
As someone (not a Liberal but a Conservative Libertarian) who has been blanketly insulted themselves on their own site, I can only shake my head and smile. Is that the best you have, internetland? Not even the same tired arguments. Just outright childish insults and fingerpointing? So someone on the web disagrees with you. A cursory reading of more then just a few recent posts reveals that Ryland is a thoughtful, intelligent guy and one of the few Liberal minds (if he considers himself one) that I truly respect despite some difference in opinion.
I could debate the pros and cons of the Bush administration all day, but I'm not going to blanket-label you for expressing your opinions. I'll get to know you... engage in serious discussion. THEN I insult you. There's a process. You, my letter-writing friend skipped that altogether and went right for the throat.
In conclusion, it is you, sir, who are a facist. Facism by definition allows no dissent. America has this pesky thing called the Constitution that actually promotes such radical things as dissent and open, armed revolution (I seem to remember hearing about just such a thing occurring nearly 200 years ago when angry settlers rebelled against England and founded this country in the first place). You can choose to label dissent as you wish, but the labels don't stick. They are as flimsy as the rationale (or lack thereof) you used to foment them in the first place. If I were you (and thank God for that), I'd save my e-mail time for Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly. They seem to be, from what I can tell, more in line with your thinking (or maybe it's "moran" line with your thinking). Save Ryland the time, trouble and bandwidth and don't even visit this site at all. I disagree with Ryland on many things, but I'm not jumping on him about them.
As someone (not a Liberal but a Conservative Libertarian) who has been blanketly insulted themselves on their own site, I can only shake my head and smile. Is that the best you have, internetland? Not even the same tired arguments. Just outright childish insults and fingerpointing? So someone on the web disagrees with you. A cursory reading of more then just a few recent posts reveals that Ryland is a thoughtful, intelligent guy and one of the few Liberal minds (if he considers himself one) that I truly respect despite some difference in opinion.
I could debate the pros and cons of the Bush administration all day, but I'm not going to blanket-label you for expressing your opinions. I'll get to know you... engage in serious discussion. THEN I insult you. There's a process. You, my letter-writing friend skipped that altogether and went right for the throat.
In conclusion, it is you, sir, who are a facist. Facism by definition allows no dissent. America has this pesky thing called the Constitution that actually promotes such radical things as dissent and open, armed revolution (I seem to remember hearing about just such a thing occurring nearly 200 years ago when angry settlers rebelled against England and founded this country in the first place). You can choose to label dissent as you wish, but the labels don't stick. They are as flimsy as the rationale (or lack thereof) you used to foment them in the first place. If I were you (and thank God for that), I'd save my e-mail time for Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly. They seem to be, from what I can tell, more in line with your thinking (or maybe it's "moran" line with your thinking). Save Ryland the time, trouble and bandwidth and don't even visit this site at all. I disagree with Ryland on many things, but I'm not jumping on him about them.
Posted by John Donaldson :: 
:: :: Dec 21, 2003 08:33pm
:: :: Dec 21, 2003 08:33pmWell said, E_B_A.,
You saved me the trouble of posting a lesser comment. I would not have been able to say it nearly as well.
John
You saved me the trouble of posting a lesser comment. I would not have been able to say it nearly as well.
John
Posted by LL :: :: :: Dec 27, 2003 03:20am
:: :: Dec 27, 2003 03:20amAll I can say is......beautiful...masterful...and hand crafted perfection.
Posted by Alistair :: :: :: Jan 11, 2004 06:29pm
:: :: Jan 11, 2004 06:29pm"If you have even a rudimentary understanding of political scapes then you know that the extreme of Liberalism is COMMUNISM and the extreme of Conservatism is FACISM"
Actually Communism is an extreme of Socialism. Communist regimes aren't usually very liberal.
The extreme of Liberalism would be strip canasta.
Actually Communism is an extreme of Socialism. Communist regimes aren't usually very liberal.
The extreme of Liberalism would be strip canasta.
Posted by Luke :: :: :: Dec 21, 2003 08:26pm
:: :: Dec 21, 2003 08:26pmNah...it makes Bush look stupid. And what a gross misrepresentation that must be?
Posted by trip :: :: :: Dec 21, 2003 09:22pm
:: :: Dec 21, 2003 09:22pm>Your only redemption would be to replace George W's picture with one that is flattering to his leadership skills and offer an apology to visitors to your web site.
And as for you, my ignorant friend, your only redemption would be to replace George W with a president that is flattering to America's desired place in the world and offer an apology to all of the voters in America who have been disenfranchised by George W and his fascist followers.
I've been ashamed to be an American for the past couple of years... King George has undone much of the Bill of Rights, large parts of the Constitution, important treaties, and significant international laws, while simultaneously doing more to lessen America in the eyes of the rest of the world than any president in recent history, which is really saying something when you think about what dipshits Clinton and Papa Bush were.
Get your facts straight: America has come closer to fascism in the last 2 years than it has since the McCarthy era. Think, if you are capable of doing so, of what this country supposedly stands for, of the ideals we supposedly uphold, then look at the actions of Bush. The immensity of dishonor that has fallen upon this country should make you weep or vomit.
The *only* thing worse than Bush's domestic policies are his foreign policies. More people on the planet hate us right now than ever before. Bush spent the day a week or two ago kissing the Chinese PM's ass so he wouldn't have to send soldiers to Taiwan... piss off the Muslims, piss off the Chinese, turn people like yourself who are incapable of thought into rabid hateful trolls... what a wonderful presidency.
And as for you, my ignorant friend, your only redemption would be to replace George W with a president that is flattering to America's desired place in the world and offer an apology to all of the voters in America who have been disenfranchised by George W and his fascist followers.
I've been ashamed to be an American for the past couple of years... King George has undone much of the Bill of Rights, large parts of the Constitution, important treaties, and significant international laws, while simultaneously doing more to lessen America in the eyes of the rest of the world than any president in recent history, which is really saying something when you think about what dipshits Clinton and Papa Bush were.
Get your facts straight: America has come closer to fascism in the last 2 years than it has since the McCarthy era. Think, if you are capable of doing so, of what this country supposedly stands for, of the ideals we supposedly uphold, then look at the actions of Bush. The immensity of dishonor that has fallen upon this country should make you weep or vomit.
The *only* thing worse than Bush's domestic policies are his foreign policies. More people on the planet hate us right now than ever before. Bush spent the day a week or two ago kissing the Chinese PM's ass so he wouldn't have to send soldiers to Taiwan... piss off the Muslims, piss off the Chinese, turn people like yourself who are incapable of thought into rabid hateful trolls... what a wonderful presidency.
Posted by Joe Rivera :: :: :: Dec 22, 2003 08:58am
:: :: Dec 22, 2003 08:58am>> But since, you still lack the intelligence to formulate any opinion based on critical thinking skills...
I know Ryland and he doesn't lack "critical" thinking skills (did he mean analytical) he can be as critical as the next guy.
I don't agree with many of Ryland's political views but you know that his ability to express his views is what differentiates us from nations like Iraq? One more thing, it's funny that you suggest that Ryland is ignorant (he's not) when you seem incapable of putting a coherent thought together. Ryland, Ryland, Ryland!
Hey Ryland you can send me that check now, he, he.
I know Ryland and he doesn't lack "critical" thinking skills (did he mean analytical) he can be as critical as the next guy.
I don't agree with many of Ryland's political views but you know that his ability to express his views is what differentiates us from nations like Iraq? One more thing, it's funny that you suggest that Ryland is ignorant (he's not) when you seem incapable of putting a coherent thought together. Ryland, Ryland, Ryland!
Hey Ryland you can send me that check now, he, he.
Posted by tj :: :: :: Dec 22, 2003 09:13am
:: :: Dec 22, 2003 09:13am"the world is a safer place and it is getting better for more people everyday"
which is why we're on orange alert now ... right?
which is why we're on orange alert now ... right?
Posted by KoolMoeDee :: :: :: Dec 22, 2003 10:21am
:: :: Dec 22, 2003 10:21amThis is more like what he is looking for..
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushjesus2.htm
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushjesus2.htm
Posted by pkledgrape :: :: :: Dec 22, 2003 11:20am
:: :: Dec 22, 2003 11:20am How can people justify throwing around names and labels without reason? It is a rather effective insult to call someone a facist, as we can see by the fact that there are already eight replies to this post all defending Ryland to some degree or another. However, with no reason behind the insult, it loses all power. Michael's use of the word facist has no backing. It has no logic behind it, effectively turning it into a big-people version of, "You big poopie-head!"
Michael gets a little closer with his explainnation of why Ryland is a failure at life, but I still think he's skipped a few steps between the reasons. Like in geometric proofs, well-founded insults should include every minute detail of a step, because you have to assume that the person who's reading the proof/insult is a moron, and therefore will not be able to make the connections that you have when you skipped steps.
In case Michael is reading this and would like to refine his insult technique for future e-mails on which he may hope to recieve a better grade, take a look at E_B_A's response stating why you're wrong, and why you, in fact are closer to facism. This is a good example of using reason and showing every step.
Overall grade: D-
Michael gets a little closer with his explainnation of why Ryland is a failure at life, but I still think he's skipped a few steps between the reasons. Like in geometric proofs, well-founded insults should include every minute detail of a step, because you have to assume that the person who's reading the proof/insult is a moron, and therefore will not be able to make the connections that you have when you skipped steps.
In case Michael is reading this and would like to refine his insult technique for future e-mails on which he may hope to recieve a better grade, take a look at E_B_A's response stating why you're wrong, and why you, in fact are closer to facism. This is a good example of using reason and showing every step.
Overall grade: D-
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Dec 22, 2003 02:51pm
:: :: Dec 22, 2003 02:51pmFollowup: This is my reply to Michael, and his reply to my reply. I'm not sure if he's reading this, but I told him that I was posting this here.
I said:
And Michael replies:
I said:
You should find a dictionary and look up the word "fascism". I do not think it means what you think it means. After you do that, ask yourself, and be honest: are we more free or less free now than we were four years ago?
That's all I'm going to say to you, because you obviously have your mind made up and nothing I say will change it.
PS: I'm going to post your letter in my blog, but I will keep you anonymous (unless you tell me you don't want to be).
Thanks for writing.
Best regards,
Ryland Sanders
And Michael replies:
To: ryland@aboyandhiscomputer.com
Subject: "We are ... in response to your letter"
From: Michael <email deleted>
Ryland,
Of course we are MORE FREE than we were four years ago. It's obvious . But, we are mostly more aware. MORE AWARE...........Not easily mis-led by the Clinton media machine. Mr. Clinton spent more time with scandals in office and raping (Juanita Broderick) to distract us and sidestep his duties as President..giving nuclear weapons to North Korea, 650,000 uzis to Palestians, murdering Serbians, running away in Mogadishu, screwing up Haiti, etc..etc..etc.and in the meantime using his office to go after his enemies (The FBI 500 records) and shaking down wall street companies to put dollars into his campaign and the DNC election war-chest...........Unless, you are one who only believes what a controlled liberal media wants you to believe during an election year.
I say YOU are not free...because you have allowed validity to the one-world Communist-Socialist rich elitists who put their penis up the rear-ends of American Liberals pointing which way for them to think.
Remember, Like Star Wars? ......The Liberal Establishment has controlled the hate of people to their ends. When you control people's hate, you can get them to do anything. The liberal Democrats and their cousin's, Who are "Green", with envy want power.....Power over you and us, Power Over People....But, only if you give it to them. The Emperor Demon-Cats have a great media machine, but I don't buy into it...........Because I AM FREE, endowed by my creator with inalienable rights that once you give to goverment, you then put government above God. and therefore have no rights you are "born" with AND then the government can step in and take away your rights.
Yeh, we have Homeland Security, but the fine print goes after those people who not only wnat to kill you and your friends and family, no matter what political party you belong to, but ultimately, want to destroy your Constitution and your way of life and (yes) your American Culture. They are not after you. Just like when the FBI went after the East Coast gangs, there are cycles in this country when we have to clean up the mess by "citizens" who abuse the freedoms here. I trust the Republicans more than the Democrats with respecting the rights of citizens. And that has been proven time and time again. Check the Congressional Record and see the voting pattern of Democrats over the past 40 years.
It is very hard for you to be a man and stand on your own two feet when you have an opinion or a belief that doesn't gel with your own peer group. Are you afraid to stand up against your own peer group?
Pontius Pilate said...This man has done nothing wrong (Jesus), but the mob still wanted him crucified. Are you afraid of being crucified?
We are even more free than we were forty years ago........Remember...Living under a cold war with a Race to make more and more nuclear weapons? We won that war. Look around you, is someone stopping you from you itinerary? Yes, we are very much more free than we were 4 years ago and we are stopping terrorists from making us less free.
The Bush's have destroyed thousand s of weapons of mass destruction here and abroad.
And now, Libya knows that America with a true leader at the helm, means business. Libya as well as Iran is destroying thier weapons of mass destruction and will allow weapons inspectors into their countries to inspect. Libya has now admitted compliance in the bombing of flight 103 over Lockerbie Scotland and will be paying reparations to the victim's families.
Yeh, Liberal Media says "We (The US)built up Saddam". Now that Saddam has been captured, Forgiveness of loans from France, Germany, and other countries are coming in. It seems we were number 8 down the list of helping Iraq...and it was primarily with intelligence against their war with Iran who earlier had American hostages, complements of Pres. Jimmy Carter. But the top four who provided destructive chemicals, gas and weapons were France, Germany, Russia and China.
Everyday the librals are being exposed for the lies they tried to put on Bush, instead.
And why is it that you ...even when confronted with the truth won't change your mind? I know why. But you need to think about that. Even, with all the good and issues that George Bush brought up and has got passed that were once Democrat issues........Why oh Why do you not change? Why are you unable to change? YOU.
It is too bad, you are not in dialogue across from me, where I can correct you with facts regarding accusations you make. And Because I make it a point to research and re-check my sources and do not rely exclusively on the main stream liberal media for political information.
To paraphrase; "The fault dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but within ourselves."
Juan with the Universe
Posted by NationalKato :: :: :: Dec 22, 2003 04:23pm
:: :: Dec 22, 2003 04:23pm"...because i make it a point to research and re-check my sources..."
and yet he still doesn't address his misinterpretation of the word 'fascist.'
my head hurts, trying to read his cerebral vomitus. dude, put together a complete sentence meet back here in 5!
and yet he still doesn't address his misinterpretation of the word 'fascist.'
my head hurts, trying to read his cerebral vomitus. dude, put together a complete sentence meet back here in 5!
Posted by E_B_A :: :: :: Dec 22, 2003 05:28pm
:: :: Dec 22, 2003 05:28pmThis changes nothing from my original comments. I hope he's reading this. And I hope he stays away from my site too. I'm an Anarchist. I don't take being mislabeled as a facist lightly, especially when it is a facist calling me one.
Posted by martin :: :: :: Dec 22, 2003 06:15pm
:: :: Dec 22, 2003 06:15pmI thought about various ways one might argue against this fellow's case, but then I reminded myself that there is no way to argue with an irrational individual. Instead, I'll try a different tack...
The line at the end is from Shakespeare. The Tragedy of Julius Caesar, as many of you probably know.
The line, itself, is taken out of context (as often it is) and shortened (as it often is). The complete line reads: "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,/ But in ourselves, that we are underlings"(1.2 140-1 in the Norton edition).
I think it's amusing, since these lines are spoken by Cassius to Brutus in tempting him to become disloyal to Caesar and to kill Caesar for the good of Rome. Brutus, you might recall, comes to a nasty end in the play (he falls on his own sword when overcome with grief at his mistakenly following Cassius' advice).
Coincidence, then, that Juan uses these words to try to convince our host to sing the praises of Gush?
Anyway... I figured, if nothing else, it would be a nice break from the typical cyclic shenanigans.
The line at the end is from Shakespeare. The Tragedy of Julius Caesar, as many of you probably know.
The line, itself, is taken out of context (as often it is) and shortened (as it often is). The complete line reads: "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,/ But in ourselves, that we are underlings"(1.2 140-1 in the Norton edition).
I think it's amusing, since these lines are spoken by Cassius to Brutus in tempting him to become disloyal to Caesar and to kill Caesar for the good of Rome. Brutus, you might recall, comes to a nasty end in the play (he falls on his own sword when overcome with grief at his mistakenly following Cassius' advice).
Coincidence, then, that Juan uses these words to try to convince our host to sing the praises of Gush?
Anyway... I figured, if nothing else, it would be a nice break from the typical cyclic shenanigans.
Posted by Sir Craig :: :: :: Dec 22, 2003 09:26pm
:: :: Dec 22, 2003 09:26pmI was going to come up with all kinds of pithy things to say in regards to this lunatic, but the more I tried to read his invective, the more my head hurt.
Please, Ryland, make the bad man stop hurting my head!
Please, Ryland, make the bad man stop hurting my head!
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Dec 22, 2003 09:51pm
:: :: Dec 22, 2003 09:51pmI was kinda wondering if you guys thought I posted this just so I could start a fight or whatever, but I didn't, honestly. I just thought this guy was too good not to share, almost as good a drive-by as the reparations lady, and just as sure he knows everything about me by glancing at a couple of blog posts (if he even got that far).
Posted by Joe Rivera :: :: :: Dec 23, 2003 11:33am
:: :: Dec 23, 2003 11:33amHe, he. I'd forgotten about the reparations lady. Okay these folks have convinced me. Ryland you are evil.....evil I say!
Posted by Sir Craig :: :: :: Dec 23, 2003 11:50am
:: :: Dec 23, 2003 11:50amOh, man, I had forgotten about her too. Further proof Internet access is far too easy sometimes...
Instead of starting a fight, I noticed that you have managed to bring together everyone on this one, liberals and conservatives alike, in a common stand: Exposing idiocy.
In an odd way, it's kind of sad that by publishing this clown's drivel you have given him a form of legitimacy. But such is the double-edge sword of democracy and freedom of speech: You can't know the intelligent arguments from the idiotic ones without viewing both.
Keep up the good humor...and continue to give us more laughs like this.
Instead of starting a fight, I noticed that you have managed to bring together everyone on this one, liberals and conservatives alike, in a common stand: Exposing idiocy.
In an odd way, it's kind of sad that by publishing this clown's drivel you have given him a form of legitimacy. But such is the double-edge sword of democracy and freedom of speech: You can't know the intelligent arguments from the idiotic ones without viewing both.
Keep up the good humor...and continue to give us more laughs like this.
Posted by foobario :: :: :: Dec 23, 2003 01:32am
:: :: Dec 23, 2003 01:32amThis is just sad... that someone can be so filled with hatred and lies without even knowing *why* they feel that way, in fact going so far as to *defend* the people behind the propaganda machine that made him feel that way... it is clear from his post that he is not only incapable of actual rational thought (which is what makes him more susceptible to picking up hateful memes), he is actually incapable of imagining that anyone else is without his faults, so he attributes the thoughts and actions of others to the same small, mean, and ignorant motivations that drive him.
He does have one small consolation, however: he is not alone. Many people, in our insular and uneducated society, share his views. That doesn't make them right, it *certainly* doesn't make them honorable, but it does breed the sort of hateful environment where people feel comfortable spewing the sort of bile his post contains. It is a great travesty that such people do not look within themselves to see how far afield they have gone from the ideals they claim to believe in.
You're not 'juan' with *my* universe, bub. Or with that of anyone I know. But then my crowd can rarely be found slumming it, so maybe we just haven't been anywhere near your ideological trailer park.
He does have one small consolation, however: he is not alone. Many people, in our insular and uneducated society, share his views. That doesn't make them right, it *certainly* doesn't make them honorable, but it does breed the sort of hateful environment where people feel comfortable spewing the sort of bile his post contains. It is a great travesty that such people do not look within themselves to see how far afield they have gone from the ideals they claim to believe in.
You're not 'juan' with *my* universe, bub. Or with that of anyone I know. But then my crowd can rarely be found slumming it, so maybe we just haven't been anywhere near your ideological trailer park.
Posted by Sir Craig :: :: :: Dec 23, 2003 12:02pm
:: :: Dec 23, 2003 12:02pmA most excellent reply, foo. Let us ALL hope we never venture into Michael's ideological trailer park.
By the way, do you get the feeling one of his "fact" resources is the highly disrespected Traitor, by Ann Coulter? It sounded a little too familiar when he brought up the "40 years of Democratic voting patterns."
By the way, do you get the feeling one of his "fact" resources is the highly disrespected Traitor, by Ann Coulter? It sounded a little too familiar when he brought up the "40 years of Democratic voting patterns."
Posted by Sir Craig :: :: :: Dec 23, 2003 06:45pm
:: :: Dec 23, 2003 06:45pmFollow-up:
If your buddy Michael still thinks we live in the most free country on the planet, perhaps he should read this article.
No wonder the world is pissed at us.
If your buddy Michael still thinks we live in the most free country on the planet, perhaps he should read this article.
No wonder the world is pissed at us.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Dec 23, 2003 07:17pm
:: :: Dec 23, 2003 07:17pmJesus, that's just insane.
Posted by Radek :: :: :: Dec 25, 2003 03:46pm
:: :: Dec 25, 2003 03:46pmOh, our American neighbours to the south, we don't all hate you!
The (unfortunate) plethora of articles like this doesn't help, though.
The (unfortunate) plethora of articles like this doesn't help, though.
Posted by Jesus :: :: :: Dec 24, 2003 03:42am
:: :: Dec 24, 2003 03:42amI just want to point a few things out.
1) He calls himself "Juan with the Universe". That's fucking retarded.
2) He compares the "liberal media" to Star Wars. Somebody doesn't get out of the house much.
3) He has failed to acknowledge anything you said or anything of logic or reason. He blames Democrats for funding terrorism when Republicans did the same thing.
Clearly, we have a case of Biblitis here. Part of being a good Christian (as this man clearly thinks he is) is the inability to understand logic or reasoning when it is in conflict with your 'beliefs'. Are we more free? Hmm, we got a small tax cut while rich people got a big one. Hmm, the military is larger. Hmm, the government can spy on you without a warrant and never tell anyone if they suspect you of harboring terrorists.
But his argument is "We're freer than we were forty years ago, therefore we're freer than we were four years ago." It doesn't even resemble the question you posed.
I fucking hate stupid people.
1) He calls himself "Juan with the Universe". That's fucking retarded.
2) He compares the "liberal media" to Star Wars. Somebody doesn't get out of the house much.
3) He has failed to acknowledge anything you said or anything of logic or reason. He blames Democrats for funding terrorism when Republicans did the same thing.
Clearly, we have a case of Biblitis here. Part of being a good Christian (as this man clearly thinks he is) is the inability to understand logic or reasoning when it is in conflict with your 'beliefs'. Are we more free? Hmm, we got a small tax cut while rich people got a big one. Hmm, the military is larger. Hmm, the government can spy on you without a warrant and never tell anyone if they suspect you of harboring terrorists.
But his argument is "We're freer than we were forty years ago, therefore we're freer than we were four years ago." It doesn't even resemble the question you posed.
I fucking hate stupid people.
Posted by shame :: :: :: Dec 24, 2003 01:26pm
:: :: Dec 24, 2003 01:26pmYou mean, you hate yourself????
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Dec 24, 2003 01:29pm
:: :: Dec 24, 2003 01:29pmBEST COMEBACK EVAR, second only to such classics as "I know you are, but what am I?" and "Stop hitting yourself!"
Posted by David S :: :: :: Dec 29, 2003 03:22am
:: :: Dec 29, 2003 03:22amHeh Heh. HEY! Wait a minute!
The "I know you are, but what am I?" statement can sometimes be just as effective(or ineffective) as an intelligent statement. Especially when your counterpart in the discussion isn't listening to a word you are saying. Or vise versa.
The "I know you are, but what am I?" statement can sometimes be just as effective(or ineffective) as an intelligent statement. Especially when your counterpart in the discussion isn't listening to a word you are saying. Or vise versa.
Posted by Sir Craig :: :: :: Dec 24, 2003 02:01pm
:: :: Dec 24, 2003 02:01pmA minor correction, if I may...
The military is actually getting smaller: no one is in a hurry to enlist, given what's going on with Iraq, and many people who should be lifers are punching out as soon as they can.
Perhaps you meant the military budget is bigger. Even so, those of us in the military are not seeing much out of it (my pay increase amounted to less than 2%, not even able to keep up with inflation).
I'm guessing a lot of those military bucks are going into Halliburton's and Bechtel's pockets...
The military is actually getting smaller: no one is in a hurry to enlist, given what's going on with Iraq, and many people who should be lifers are punching out as soon as they can.
Perhaps you meant the military budget is bigger. Even so, those of us in the military are not seeing much out of it (my pay increase amounted to less than 2%, not even able to keep up with inflation).
I'm guessing a lot of those military bucks are going into Halliburton's and Bechtel's pockets...
Posted by Tony :: :: :: Mar 02, 2004 05:47pm
:: :: Mar 02, 2004 05:47pmTechnically, neither our tax cut nor our military has much directly to do with our freedoms. Admittedly I've only just reached draft age and don't yet pay taxes, but I am much more concerned about the possibility that I might be detained without question, without notification of even my family, in a secret location, given who-knows-what kind of treatment, and never know why.
Posted by Maximus :: :: :: Dec 27, 2003 10:47pm
:: :: Dec 27, 2003 10:47pm Since everyone else got their two cents worth, I figured it would be unfair if I didn't contribute more points to an already heavy argument. As a Conservative myself, I ask the question: Where is the old Conservative ideal of limited government? I cringe at the fact that a fellow conservative, George W (more like idiot) allowed a bill like the Patriot Act to ever pass over his desk.
As far as freedoms are concerned, Michael, I'm appalled that you don't see the implications of having ANYONE be arrested without right to due process. They might be arresting "terrorists" now, but who is to say that tomorrow they might not arrest you for voicing an opinion just like the ones we are posting right here?
And lies? LIES? Excuse me if I laugh. Lies aren't new to any administration. But where are those weapons of mass destruction the we invaded Iraq for? I think those qualify as a lie...
I could continue writing forever, but I've had enough of your idiocy. I think I'll go do something less painful, like stick my dick in a blender.
As far as freedoms are concerned, Michael, I'm appalled that you don't see the implications of having ANYONE be arrested without right to due process. They might be arresting "terrorists" now, but who is to say that tomorrow they might not arrest you for voicing an opinion just like the ones we are posting right here?
And lies? LIES? Excuse me if I laugh. Lies aren't new to any administration. But where are those weapons of mass destruction the we invaded Iraq for? I think those qualify as a lie...
I could continue writing forever, but I've had enough of your idiocy. I think I'll go do something less painful, like stick my dick in a blender.
Posted by David S :: :: :: Dec 29, 2003 04:03am
:: :: Dec 29, 2003 04:03amThey might be arresting "terrorists" now, but who is to say that tomorrow they might not arrest you for voicing an opinion just like the ones we are posting right here?
Are you suggesting that they aren't already "detaining" people for their opinion?
Are you suggesting that they aren't already "detaining" people for their opinion?
Posted by Tony :: :: :: Mar 02, 2004 05:51pm
:: :: Mar 02, 2004 05:51pmFor instance, and I hope you people will forgive me for not doing my research here, the man in New York, who was arresting for distributing documents potentially detrimental to public moral. i.e., they suggested that maybe the terrorists have some reason to be mad at us.
Posted by Matt :: :: :: Feb 22, 2004 09:13am
:: :: Feb 22, 2004 09:13amGuano with the Universe spewed:
"We are even more free than we were forty years ago........Remember...Living under a cold war with a Race to make more and more nuclear weapons? We won that war. Look around you, is someone stopping you from you itinerary? Yes, we are very much more free than we were 4 years ago and we are stopping terrorists from making us less free."
Bush's time in office has given government the ability to perform wiretaps without a warrant and check library records to make sure you're not reading the wrong books. Now, thanks to the anti-ballistic missile shield the White House has been pressing for, Russia has announced a new initiative to develop super-sonic intercontinental missiles that can overcome such an effort even if, eventually, it does prove successful for the most part... hence, reigniting another arms race that, doubtless, will become global with China in the mix, and the new technologies will (given Russia's oh so secure status and impregnability to corruption -- note the sarcasm) fly around to enemy countries and persons of means faster than SARS in a Shanghai sauna.
We are in fact, significantly less free now than we were four years ago. It is only you, Guano, who seem to be ignorant of this fact.
"We are even more free than we were forty years ago........Remember...Living under a cold war with a Race to make more and more nuclear weapons? We won that war. Look around you, is someone stopping you from you itinerary? Yes, we are very much more free than we were 4 years ago and we are stopping terrorists from making us less free."
Bush's time in office has given government the ability to perform wiretaps without a warrant and check library records to make sure you're not reading the wrong books. Now, thanks to the anti-ballistic missile shield the White House has been pressing for, Russia has announced a new initiative to develop super-sonic intercontinental missiles that can overcome such an effort even if, eventually, it does prove successful for the most part... hence, reigniting another arms race that, doubtless, will become global with China in the mix, and the new technologies will (given Russia's oh so secure status and impregnability to corruption -- note the sarcasm) fly around to enemy countries and persons of means faster than SARS in a Shanghai sauna.
We are in fact, significantly less free now than we were four years ago. It is only you, Guano, who seem to be ignorant of this fact.
Posted by Tony :: :: :: Mar 02, 2004 06:01pm
:: :: Mar 02, 2004 06:01pm"Controlled liberal media". Let's ponder that one for a moment, shall we?
Posted by cardfrek :: :: :: Dec 22, 2003 08:33pm
:: :: Dec 22, 2003 08:33pmCan't we all just get along? /rodney king
Posted by Nicole :: :: :: Dec 22, 2003 09:45pm
:: :: Dec 22, 2003 09:45pmAs a libertarian myself, I have a lot of things I could say to "Juan of the universe." However, my head hurts from reading all of his spelling and grammatical errors.
Posted by Phil :: :: :: Dec 25, 2003 05:02am
:: :: Dec 25, 2003 05:02amRyland - in your first paragraph you said "gods forbid". Does this mean you beleive in multiple gods? Is it a typo? Are you trying to be politically correct by not limiting your statement to just one god?
I must say, as a devout Devil worshiper, I take great offense at your ambiguity. Us Satanists firmly accept the notion of only one god - otherwise, things get way too complicated. I certainly don't want to have to barter for souls with TWO gods. It's hard enough convincing a poor mortal to part with his soul and pay the ultimate price to just ONE god.
Please do us heathens a favor and explain yourself!
Yours truly,
Phil (or Damien if you're a convert)
P.S. Love your site!
I must say, as a devout Devil worshiper, I take great offense at your ambiguity. Us Satanists firmly accept the notion of only one god - otherwise, things get way too complicated. I certainly don't want to have to barter for souls with TWO gods. It's hard enough convincing a poor mortal to part with his soul and pay the ultimate price to just ONE god.
Please do us heathens a favor and explain yourself!
Yours truly,
Phil (or Damien if you're a convert)
P.S. Love your site!
Posted by Sherri :: :: :: Dec 27, 2003 12:07pm
:: :: Dec 27, 2003 12:07pmPhil,
I checked the Merriam-Webster Online dictionary for "heathens".
Main Entry: 2heathen
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural heathens or heathen
Date: before 12th century
1 : an unconverted member of a people or nation that does not acknowledge the God of the Bible
2 : an uncivilized or irreligious person
Per the first definition, you are not a heathen. I have no idea about your level of civilization, but as a Satan Worshipper you cannot be said to be irreligous.
As an actual heathen (first definition), also known as Pagan, but having NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH WICCA STOP SHAKING THAT CRYSTAL AT ME *ahem*I ask that you stop confusing the good people of the world ;>
Inasmuch as Satan is a part of the Christian mythos and Satan worship bases itself on being a mirror opposite of Christianity and thus based on Christianity, technically Satanism is a form of Christianity. And doesn't THAT get some people's knickers in a wad!
Ryland, I will agree with Phil that your site is worth love :>
I checked the Merriam-Webster Online dictionary for "heathens".
Main Entry: 2heathen
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural heathens or heathen
Date: before 12th century
1 : an unconverted member of a people or nation that does not acknowledge the God of the Bible
2 : an uncivilized or irreligious person
Per the first definition, you are not a heathen. I have no idea about your level of civilization, but as a Satan Worshipper you cannot be said to be irreligous.
As an actual heathen (first definition), also known as Pagan, but having NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH WICCA STOP SHAKING THAT CRYSTAL AT ME *ahem*I ask that you stop confusing the good people of the world ;>
Inasmuch as Satan is a part of the Christian mythos and Satan worship bases itself on being a mirror opposite of Christianity and thus based on Christianity, technically Satanism is a form of Christianity. And doesn't THAT get some people's knickers in a wad!
Ryland, I will agree with Phil that your site is worth love :>
Posted by Almost Lucid :: :: :: Dec 26, 2003 07:55pm
:: :: Dec 26, 2003 07:55pmSWEEEET! You really hooked a live one there. Save that for 500 years from now when humans have evolved a bit more and the liberal/fascist views will be called human nature.
Posted by LL :: :: :: Dec 27, 2003 03:18am
:: :: Dec 27, 2003 03:18amThat brainwashed jesus humping idiot just made a hell of a lot of assumptions!
First of all, not everyone who knows George Bush is retarded is a liberal.
And it's funny how he assumes one's political views simply because of a funny picture. And I wouldn't say that everyone else is brainwashed...after all, isn't Yee-Haw Snortin' Shrub instituting a "Patriot Act" in which you can be condemned because of certain types of speech?
But that's not fascist. I mean, we have lots of freedoms. Like the freedom to vote....I mean, George won that vote fair in square..........Your vote counts!! It just..might..uh...go to a different place, that's all..it still countrs though!.........and Dick Cheney was not the head of a big oil company and Iraq doesn't have lots of oil....
First of all, not everyone who knows George Bush is retarded is a liberal.
And it's funny how he assumes one's political views simply because of a funny picture. And I wouldn't say that everyone else is brainwashed...after all, isn't Yee-Haw Snortin' Shrub instituting a "Patriot Act" in which you can be condemned because of certain types of speech?
But that's not fascist. I mean, we have lots of freedoms. Like the freedom to vote....I mean, George won that vote fair in square..........Your vote counts!! It just..might..uh...go to a different place, that's all..it still countrs though!.........and Dick Cheney was not the head of a big oil company and Iraq doesn't have lots of oil....
Posted by Scott :: :: :: Dec 28, 2003 03:26am
:: :: Dec 28, 2003 03:26amI really love republicans...I am one myself ...(liberal republican)... but i don't think "DUBBYA" is such the great leader either.
Posted by jamie kincheloe :: :: :: Dec 29, 2003 03:12pm
:: :: Dec 29, 2003 03:12pmthe bush administration has been a touchy subject for me. before he was president, i was some dipshit anarchist punk, who followed the good charolette formula of punk mentality. since bush has been in the presidency, its made me seriously appreciate my rights as an american as i watched them get stripped away one by one.
i still find it amazing how one day after 9-11 the entire world agreed to help us fight our war on terror, and he squandered the support of every major army in the world, by pointing fingers at the wrong people (saddam for instance). i think its a good thing that we caught him, and we're working to free the people who've been living under so many years of repression. if as americans, its our duty to help those who need help, then we could start by working to dethrone momar kedaffi (not sure if its spelled right). he's ten times worse than saddam
but to be completely honest i would feel alot safer if we went after the people who actually attacked us, instead of some petty dictator, who's too afraid to even stand up to us.
i still find it amazing how one day after 9-11 the entire world agreed to help us fight our war on terror, and he squandered the support of every major army in the world, by pointing fingers at the wrong people (saddam for instance). i think its a good thing that we caught him, and we're working to free the people who've been living under so many years of repression. if as americans, its our duty to help those who need help, then we could start by working to dethrone momar kedaffi (not sure if its spelled right). he's ten times worse than saddam
but to be completely honest i would feel alot safer if we went after the people who actually attacked us, instead of some petty dictator, who's too afraid to even stand up to us.
Posted by leviathanticus :: :: :: Dec 30, 2003 12:55am
:: :: Dec 30, 2003 12:55amwell ppl like him can pay off the deficit i wont lol
Posted by Raging Fetus :: :: :: Jan 01, 2004 01:24am
:: :: Jan 01, 2004 01:24amI always find it simultaneously infuriating and amusing when the brainwashed masses try and attack those who think freely and have their eyes open to what has been happening in this country for the past 57 years or so since World War II. This man, the one attacking Ryland, is the perfect example of a mindless, brainwashed finger puppet of the republican party. Every single thing he said about Liberals is actually an attribute of the Conservative officials in this country, not the Liberals. This is the pattern that they have taken on in the past few years: distract the masses from the greedy evil that you are doing by accusing your opponents of being every vile thing that YOU are. You can't even begin to argue with someone that is this zombified. Hell the guy can't even form a complete thought, much less spell half of the words he uses.
Posted by KingBurger :: :: :: Jan 05, 2004 01:56pm
:: :: Jan 05, 2004 01:56pmGeorge Bush picked up a war his daddy couldn't win. Let's all not forget that he became president witch a minority of votes from the american citizen. Nice democracy you live in...
Posted by Pizza man :: :: :: Jan 05, 2004 04:22pm
:: :: Jan 05, 2004 04:22pmClinton won his two presidential elections both times with fewer votes than Bush had. That is the way our voting system works...electoral votes.
Posted by Sir Craig :: :: :: Jan 05, 2004 09:53pm
:: :: Jan 05, 2004 09:53pmOuch, ouch, ouch...
What in the hell are you talking about? Yeah, Shrub got more votes than Clinton (50,461,092 compared to Clinton's 44,909,326 and 47,402,357), but Clinton got the majority of the popular votes! Christ, you'd think that the Electoral College decided both elections in Clinton's favor, when in actuality it wasn't even close (Clinton got 5,805,444 [1992] and 8,203,602 [1996] more votes than either Bush Sr/Dole).
Shrub got over half a million fewer votes than Gore - that is how our voting system doesn't work.
Stick with the pizzas...
What in the hell are you talking about? Yeah, Shrub got more votes than Clinton (50,461,092 compared to Clinton's 44,909,326 and 47,402,357), but Clinton got the majority of the popular votes! Christ, you'd think that the Electoral College decided both elections in Clinton's favor, when in actuality it wasn't even close (Clinton got 5,805,444 [1992] and 8,203,602 [1996] more votes than either Bush Sr/Dole).
Shrub got over half a million fewer votes than Gore - that is how our voting system doesn't work.
Stick with the pizzas...
Posted by Natasha :: :: :: Jan 08, 2004 09:43am
:: :: Jan 08, 2004 09:43amHey, the fact that my country is so fascist, due to Blush, Gush, Shrub, whatever you wanna call this guy, is the reason why I am going to dress up in a lime green empire afro wig, a Sri Lankan celebration frock , apply tons of colorful face paint and dance around in a local cemetery and take pictures of myself doing so this weekend. This is what the current government drives me to exercise, as it symbolizes the type of things they are doingWhatever they want and with no explanation. And by doing so, they put into question the true definition of conservatism/republicanism and instead take on the activities that more comprise the concept of something I cant find the right word for... The way I see it, the increasingly skeptical actions of our government only makes it easier to acknowledge our countrys pig-headed lack of at least politely masking their short-term solutions with selfish intentions.
Whatever. I shall enjoy the human races last good years on earth by prancing around like a lunatic in whatever costume I want to wear. And Ill keep voting for Nader until all left parties finally get it right and band together to finally beat the evil that we are now ruled under. In the meantime, I might even perform a crime just to see what the inside of prison looks like. Why not?
One things for sure. Im definitely NOT having kids. But, I will certainly dress my dog up and post things on your site. Yippy!! Hey Ryland, can you open a page for people in costume?
Whatever. I shall enjoy the human races last good years on earth by prancing around like a lunatic in whatever costume I want to wear. And Ill keep voting for Nader until all left parties finally get it right and band together to finally beat the evil that we are now ruled under. In the meantime, I might even perform a crime just to see what the inside of prison looks like. Why not?
One things for sure. Im definitely NOT having kids. But, I will certainly dress my dog up and post things on your site. Yippy!! Hey Ryland, can you open a page for people in costume?
Posted by Idiots :: :: :: Jan 11, 2004 05:22pm
:: :: Jan 11, 2004 05:22pmThis website is pure entertainment. Why? The idiots. Unfortunately, many of the comments have resorted to "Bush sucks, Bush sucks, Bush sucks." Comon guys, step it up a notch. Put some, dare I say, thought into it, and give me something tangible to disagree with you about.
Thanks, A Concerned Reader
Thanks, A Concerned Reader
Posted by Bill Clinton's Pinker Neighbor :: :: :: Apr 12, 2004 08:14pm
:: :: Apr 12, 2004 08:14pmBush DOES suck.
I try not to think about it too much.
I try not to think about it too much.
Posted by Flawless Deathmaster :: :: :: Jan 09, 2004 02:04pm
:: :: Jan 09, 2004 02:04pmActually, I think that picture suits him...
Posted by PraetorBlue :: :: :: Jan 21, 2004 11:02am
:: :: Jan 21, 2004 11:02amMaybe Juan would have preferred any of these pictures, they are perhaps better representations of Bush and his leadership skills:
http://www.randomdudes.com/bush/bush.html
http://www.randomdudes.com/bush/bush.html
Posted by A Rational Thinker :: :: :: Apr 12, 2004 09:00pm
:: :: Apr 12, 2004 09:00pmall i can say is fuck bush in his bible-beatin' ass.
what good has bush done?
-he's destroyed the economy,
-helped big business become even mroe controlling through his greedy republican ideals
-he is attempted to make the first constitution ammendment that limits american's rights(the ban on gay and lesbian marriage)
-he passed anti-abortion laws limiting women's rights
-he has put more church into the state with his 'god bless america' than any president i have been alive to see
-he has started an illegal war that even went against his owns countries constitution
-he went against the UN and has since then withdrew from many un councils such as human rights and things of the such
-he has supported nations that are just as oppresive as iraq just so his pocket could get thicker(saudi arabia is the home to plenty more terrorism than iraq, but they're are his 'oil buddies'
-while our nation was in ruin fom the most devastating terrorist attack ever, he was up in a plane flying around for hours, while the only other planes aloud to leave the country were the planes taking the bin ladens out of the the country
-he ignored several PDB's that were titled such things as 'al queada cells in us' 'bin laden to attack in us' etc...
-he has caused a world-wide dissent of the american people to a point where 70% of our greates ally(GB) hates us, the mayor of london(ken livenstone) upon the arrival of gwb to his city, stated that "george w bush is the greatest threat to life on the face of the earth"
-he lost 2.7 million jobs in his first year of office, and since then hasn't even gained half of them back
-he made tax cuts of over $750,000,000,000 which didn't even kick in until 2.5 years later
-he started a war that has cost us around $1,000,000,000,000, 1 trillion that we don't have cause of his ineffective republican tax cuts
----what is wrong with republican tax cuts----
-the republicans, being teh big business greedy corrupt politicians that they are, believe in what is known as 'trickle-down' economics, where that they give all the money to the richest people, hoping that it will trickle down to the poor people, the people that need it.
but what happens is that the big business people take their 'fair share' of it and it ends up giving the poeple at the bottom somewhere around $50 a year.
where as the effective way for tax cuts to work would be to give them to the poeple who need them, to the poor working class citizens, so that they will spend it and give it back tto the economy thus indirectly creating more jobs in the companies that are selling goods that the average american bbuys, so that those necessary companies will create more jobs, thus hiring the unemployed and making the worl a better place
anyways, i am tired of writing right now,
so, yeah, bush sucks not only as a person,
but as a president,
and considering that over 100,000,000 people are constitutionally elligible to become president, and HE won?
it makes me sad
so, vote for greg schilling in 2024 for a new kind of world leader, a ration world leader who will truely make the world a better place
what good has bush done?
-he's destroyed the economy,
-helped big business become even mroe controlling through his greedy republican ideals
-he is attempted to make the first constitution ammendment that limits american's rights(the ban on gay and lesbian marriage)
-he passed anti-abortion laws limiting women's rights
-he has put more church into the state with his 'god bless america' than any president i have been alive to see
-he has started an illegal war that even went against his owns countries constitution
-he went against the UN and has since then withdrew from many un councils such as human rights and things of the such
-he has supported nations that are just as oppresive as iraq just so his pocket could get thicker(saudi arabia is the home to plenty more terrorism than iraq, but they're are his 'oil buddies'
-while our nation was in ruin fom the most devastating terrorist attack ever, he was up in a plane flying around for hours, while the only other planes aloud to leave the country were the planes taking the bin ladens out of the the country
-he ignored several PDB's that were titled such things as 'al queada cells in us' 'bin laden to attack in us' etc...
-he has caused a world-wide dissent of the american people to a point where 70% of our greates ally(GB) hates us, the mayor of london(ken livenstone) upon the arrival of gwb to his city, stated that "george w bush is the greatest threat to life on the face of the earth"
-he lost 2.7 million jobs in his first year of office, and since then hasn't even gained half of them back
-he made tax cuts of over $750,000,000,000 which didn't even kick in until 2.5 years later
-he started a war that has cost us around $1,000,000,000,000, 1 trillion that we don't have cause of his ineffective republican tax cuts
----what is wrong with republican tax cuts----
-the republicans, being teh big business greedy corrupt politicians that they are, believe in what is known as 'trickle-down' economics, where that they give all the money to the richest people, hoping that it will trickle down to the poor people, the people that need it.
but what happens is that the big business people take their 'fair share' of it and it ends up giving the poeple at the bottom somewhere around $50 a year.
where as the effective way for tax cuts to work would be to give them to the poeple who need them, to the poor working class citizens, so that they will spend it and give it back tto the economy thus indirectly creating more jobs in the companies that are selling goods that the average american bbuys, so that those necessary companies will create more jobs, thus hiring the unemployed and making the worl a better place
anyways, i am tired of writing right now,
so, yeah, bush sucks not only as a person,
but as a president,
and considering that over 100,000,000 people are constitutionally elligible to become president, and HE won?
it makes me sad
so, vote for greg schilling in 2024 for a new kind of world leader, a ration world leader who will truely make the world a better place
Your going to lose your Conservative License, Ryland, if word of this gets out!