"I am not a racist, but a realist."

June 5, 2007

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The fun never stops at the good ol'' Says-It.com manufacturing complex. You may remember the last time I posted about racist hijinks; this time it's a new bunch, from a site called Niggermania. I noticed some hits on the Official Seal Generator page from a message thread in their forum. Seeing that they were a bunch of racist assholes, I added "niggermania.org" and ".com" to the list of racist sites that I mess with - basically, if you click through from one of them, it sets a cookie that causes whatever you type in to be changed to "Racism sucks - grow up". (I also set it to replace the word "nigger" with "racist".) Then I sat back and watched the result. As usual, they lived up to my low expectations; the Official Seal Generator went from being "This is cool!" to "Morons!" and "condescending liberal" in short order. I figured that was going to be it, until I got this e-mail:

From: Mike Danko <dkr54ovalbug@yahoo.com>
To: ryland@says-it.com
Subject: Your site

Everytime I try and make an emblem no matter what I right it says : Racism Sucks, Grow up" Whats this all about?

Come see my Volkswagen Page

www.myspace.com/realtor_mike
From: Ryland Sanders <ryland@says-it.com>
To: Mike Danko <dkr54ovalbug@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Your site

It means you clicked through from a racist site. Find and delete a cookie from says-it.com called "stormfront" and that will fix it.
From: Mike Danko <dkr54ovalbug@yahoo.com>
To: Ryland Sanders <ryland@says-it.com>
Subject: Re: Your site

Justa thought . Because I googled a joke site you make it impossible to make a seal when I am not even a racist. How many sites do you block like that? How do you know about niggermania.org or what is going on over there
From: Ryland Sanders <ryland@says-it.com>
To: Mike Danko <dkr54ovalbug@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Your site

You posted my e-mail, along with a "nig nog" seal, and you say you're not a racist? How do you think I found out about niggermania.org? I can see in my server logs when people click through and where they click through from.
From: Mike Danko <dkr54ovalbug@yahoo.com>
To: Ryland Sanders <ryland@says-it.com>
Subject: Re: Your site

I am not a racist, but a realist. Why do you care what people post? or peoples views on the internet? They are not hurting you one bit. Are you black? Why don't you log on and really read a little bit before you condemn the fine folks at niggermania. Ok Ok I am a moderator there.

louisfarakoon@niggermania.org

So apparently I've misjudged them. It serves me right, only reading one forum thread. I mean, how can you draw a conclusion from the fact that the site is called "Niggermania", his e-mail address is "louisfarakoon", and the thread is filled with messages calling for black people to be caged, hung, or exterminated? Clearly I've not given the matter due diligence.

Jeez... buncha rocket surgeons over there.

(Normally, I wouldn't post a person's name and e-mail address, but since he saw fit to post mine, well, there you go.)

Update: I wrote back and invited them to come over and discuss it:

From: Ryland Sanders <ryland@says-it.com>
To: Mike Danko <dkr54ovalbug@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Your site

Read a little bit? So does that mean if I poke around your site, I'll find that you don't actually hate on black people? Because that's what I'm getting from what I've seen so far, that you hate black people... and that's basically it. Am I missing some other important message?

By the way, I posted about this on my blog, you and your buddies are welcome to come over and discuss it. A few of us are curious about what makes you guys tick. All I ask is that you keep it civil.

So we'll see what happens. If they do come over, be nice. This may be an educational opportunity. If it gets out of hand, I'll close the thread.

Comments

Posted by Amy Bo Bamy :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 06:30pm
It still amazes me that people sincerely believe they can click around on websites and interact with other user functions, and still remain completely, totally anonymous.
Posted by Crockodile :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 06:38pm
Some of us still try :)
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 07:24pm
How does hating someone because of the color of their skin make one a realist? Why on earth would anyone want to spend precious life moments reading a blog called "niggermania"? These people just totally baffle me. Don't they have anything else to do in their life?
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 07:48pm
I think the logic goes that the only reason liberals don't hate on black people is because it's not politically correct, so by actually speaking up about how awful black people are, they are breaking the shackles of liberal conformity, or some such nonsense.

And since I don't allow them the unfettered ability to make racist seal graphics with my site, I am "censoring" them, despite the fact that anybody with minimal talent and a paint program can make their own racist web graphics. Like many extremists, they have conflated their very real constitutional right to free speech with a fictional right to have a venue to speak in and an uncritical audience to listen to you.
Posted by louisfarakoon :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 08:11pm
This is what niggermania has to say about niggers

Many people feel Niggermania is just another hate site but nothing could be farther from the truth. A good niggermaniac doesn't hate anyone.

Tom Shelly explains why it is wrong to hate niggers.

"Personally, I do not hate niggers at all, I just correctly understand that they are not human and treat them accordingly. They are nothing more than wild niggers running around loose and one must act accordingly around them. A hundred and fifty years or so ago, people in this country treated niggers accordingly and kept them contained and controlled. We made them useful by managing their numbers, containing them, and forcing them to work and be somewhat productive. But the natural empathy of the White man caused him to unrestrain a species of animal (niggers) largely due to the fact they they mimick humans in their behavior and dress. Now that the genie is out of the bottle, he can't be put back in and we're stuck with living around 30 million wild niggers.

I am never surprised when I hear stories of TNB; stories of niggers raping, torturing, murdering and beating White people. Stories from Africa of them raping babies, toddlers, and goats; drinking lizard pee and smoking their own shit to get high. The rampant disease and famine there and watching their nigglets die off by the millions while their mammies get gang-banged in the bush to pump out another litter. Nothing about niggers surprises me at all because I do not compare their behavior with that of humans.

The only way to hate niggers and to justify the old, tired whigger accusation that racists are full of hate and spread hate and all that nonsense is only if you consider niggers human. It WOULD fill me up with hate and want to get revenge if a group of humans acted the same way niggers do and created so much misery, pain, and suffering in the world. But if you consider them as the animals that they are - a separate species from human - their actions do not surprise nor cause hate at all.

But it does fill me with a sense of bewilderment as to why we allow the nigger herd to run around completely unchecked and unmanaged. The destruction and drain on society they cause is appalling."
Tom Shelly
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 08:32pm
To paraphrase Steven Colbert, you're using the power of words to overcome insurmountable facts. The fact is, black people are human. They can interbreed with whites, share blood with whites, eat the same food, etc. So that right there proves that you're wrong from the word go. How do you account for those facts in your worldview?
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 09:32pm
"They can interbreed with whites"

Is a horse a donkey because they can interbreed? It's been speculated that chimps and humans can interbreed because their DNA is so close. Though a specimen has never been confirmed, if they found a human/chimp hybrid would you then say chimps were human?

"share blood with whites"

People have had animal organs transplanted into them before. A popular case involved a man and a baboon heart. Does that make baboons human now?

"eat the same food"

That one is pretty weak... My dog can eat the same food as me, except chocolate. Would you like to give dogs the right to vote?
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 09:50pm
OK, I'll give you the food one, although a diet that sustains a human would probably kill a dog pretty quickly. However:
Is a horse a donkey because they can interbreed?
No, because they don't produce fertile offspring. Male donkey + female horse = mule, male horse + female donkey = hinny. Mules and hinnies are sterile. If interracial human couples always produced sterile offspring, you might have a point.
if they found a human/chimp hybrid would you then say chimps were human?
If such a cross were ever found, and if it produced offspring that weren't sterile, then you might have an argument.
A popular case involved a man and a baboon heart.
Yeah, with massive dosages of immune system blockers to keep the heart from being rejected. With enough immune system blockers, you could stitch a carrot into somebody's chest and it wouldn't be rejected, but that doesn't make carrots human. What, do you just read the cover of a magazine and then consider yourself informed?
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 08:39pm
Also: if you don't hate them, but rather view them as animals to be exterminated, why do you take such obvious delight in making fun of them, making little cartoons about them, making message boards explaining to each other how you think they're awful, stupid, etc.? Why do you take the actions of animals so personally, if they don't know any better?
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 08:52pm
Good heavens, it's an invasion of morans.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 09:43pm
"if you don't hate them, but rather view them as animals to be exterminated, why do you take such obvious delight in making fun of them, making little cartoons about them, making message boards explaining to each other how you think they're awful, stupid, etc.?"

I can't speak for every niggermaniac, but making fun of them helps me vent a lot of the frustration and anger I feel towards blacks. It's a lot like a support group.

"Why do you take the actions of animals so personally, if they don't know any better?"

A lot of people would like to see pit bulls banned. Their genetic predisposition to rage and violence makes them a public safety hazard. (Speaking of pit bulls though, the same amount of DNA that separates the pit from the golden retriever is the same amount of DNA that separates the black from the white. Which breed of dog would you feel safer having around your kids?) Are you saying we shouldn't be upset about violent, blood thirsty animals being allowed to wander the same streets as us and our children? "Not knowing any better" doesn't mean we can't be offended by their behavior and not want something to be done about it.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 09:59pm
A lot of people would like to see pit bulls banned.
Granted that's true, but while plenty of people make websites advocating that pitbulls be banned, nobody makes a website called "Pitbullmania" with articles and discussion boards about how pitbulls are inferior and should be wiped out, pitbull jokes, etc.
"Not knowing any better" doesn't mean we can't be offended by their behavior and not want something to be done about it.
If it's about behavior and not skin color specifically, why do you focus on black people? All races of people have their undesirable members.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 10:23pm
"If it's about behavior and not skin color specifically"

Because their behavior is linked to their DNA, the same thing that makes them black. The same way squirrels climb trees, because it's their nature. Squirrels don't climb trees because they have fur, the same way blacks aren't dumb and violent because their skin is brown. It's because of genetic predisposition and instinct. Are you even listening?

"why do you focus on black people? All races of people have their undesirable members."

Because while other races have their criminals and abnormals, blacks have an inproportionate amount of these types. They're 12% of the population, but make up 60% of the prison population. They commit half of all violent crime, and make up 22% of serial killers. If blacks were just like whites (and most other races), then they would only commit "their share" of offenses. IE they would make up around 12% of the prison population, they would commit 12% of the violent crimes, and only be 12% of serial killers. In other words, being a criminal is the statistical norm for the black, but not for most other races.
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:17am
and make up 22% of serial killers.
That means whites are worse, because they make up almost the rest of the 78% that are NOT black.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:27am
Go back to math class... When blacks are 12% of the population, but are 22% of the serial killers it means that blacks are more likely to be serial killers than whites.

and of course there are more white serial killers than blacks... incase you haven't noticed, there are more white people.
Posted by louisfarakoon :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 08:16pm
Always remember that niggers are not human but wild savage beasts that roam our human society. You would be singing a new tune had one of these savage beasts married your sister, raped a family member or broke into your house out night. They have no regard what soever for human life and all they think about is MUH DIK, getting high, white wimminiz, Malt Liquor and crack.
I emailed your site just to see why you placed those stupid little " Racism Sucks" things inthe seal maker, and now I know that you are a liberal , nigger ass kissing pile of crap. You are just as bad as the niggers them selves. No you are worse because you are human and should no better
Posted by TahBaby :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 08:31pm
You have quite obviously never been exposed to the nigger in its natural habitat. You had better educate yourself & start checking the government crime statistics.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 09:14pm
What is their "natural habitat"?
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 08:49pm
The reason I don't like blacks? I guess it's just because I don't like stupid, violent people. Look up scientific studies in regards to race and IQ, then look up the governments very own crime statistics. The reason we prefer the term race realists and not racists is because our views are formed from an abundance of publicly available facts and our own personal experiences. This isn't about hating people because of their skin color. Race goes much deeper than just the color of a person's skin, and you'd have to be brain dead to not realize that there are many vast and fundamental differences between blacks and whites.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 09:12pm
Such as what? Explain the differences. And I mean, explain the real, scientific differences. Don't just cite crime statistics and claim that as "proof" - that's correlation without causation, at best. At worst, it's outright lies--but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. Produce some real, quantifiable differences that prove causation of the phenomena you describe (higher crime, lower IQ scores, etc.) and we can talk. Until then, you're just spouting nonsense, rationalizing your beliefs with pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 10:02pm
"that's correlation without causation"

Are you kidding me? Are you seriously trying to say that blacks scoring so abysmally low on IQ tests isn't proof of the fact that they have a much lower average intelligence than any other race?

A Chihuahua is smaller than a Dalmatian. The reason = Chihuahuas are smaller than Dalmatians. It's as simple as that. There's no complex cause to the fact that they're smaller, other than it's in their biological make up to be small.

Blacks score much lower on IQ tests than any other race. The reason = blacks are far less intelligent than any other race. There's no complex cause to the fact that they're dumber, other than it's in their biological make up to be dumb.

"Produce some real, quantifiable differences that prove causation of the phenomena you describe"

You sit there and say we're wrong. We're going out of our way to explain to you, and you just call it "mumbo jumbo" without giving much of a reason... where is your evidence to back up your claims? I don't even know why I'm trying...
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 10:27pm
An IQ test claims to measure "intelligence" but doesn't define what "intelligence" means. If we define intelligence by the ability to spell English words correctly, almost all of the users of Niggermania.org are racially inferior.

IQ tests don't measure problem-solving ability, they don't measure creativity, they don't measure tons of elements that go into the complex of traits that we very simply label "intelligence". They don't place the numbers in the context of poorer average education and nutrition. Your claims of inferiority are based on a raw number, without putting that number in any kind of context.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 10:43pm
You know, we could play this dumb little game 'tll the end of time. You're right though, talking about IQ tests and crime statistics won't prove anything.

I am interested in knowing a few things about you though. Like how many blacks do you know or have been friends with? How many blacks do you live around? How many blacks work with you?
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:02pm
I don't know enough black people personally to be statistically relevant, and I doubt you do either, so it's basically a meaningless question unless you want to count anecdotes as evidence. But for what it's worth, I'm friends with a few black people, acquaintances with several. I currently work at home, by myself, but I've worked with plenty of black people in the past. Of the ones I know, some are great people, most are assholes -- just like with every other race. I don't have a lot of use for 98% of the human beings I meet, regardless of skin color. That doesn't mean I want to see them exterminated, though.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:19pm
So you know a few black people... Go some place that's predominately black. Live and work there. Then come back and tell me that blacks and whites are still the same except for skin color.

I used to be like you. I knew some black people. I wasn't racist at all.

Then I took a job that served a client base that was about 90% black. I have lived and worked among black people. Though they do support the way I feel, I don't need stats to tell me what they're like. I've witnessed their behavior first hand...

You're not even qualified to have this discussion...
Posted by Mocking the Riot Squad :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:23pm
I know more than a few. Never had any problems or worries with them. Maybe it's just you. Maybe you're an arsehole.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:35pm
I don't think your ONE black guy screaming like a feral chimp to some band that you like compares to the 100 or so blacks I had to deal with on a regular basis, as far as experience on the matter goes.

"Maybe it's just you"

Sounds like another variation of "This is all whitey's fault!" Yeah, it's all my fault that just about every nigger that came through the door was the scum of the earth. It's also my fault that they were mostly welfare mammies and dead beat criminals. Yup, all my doing.

Seriously... you're retarded, aren't you?
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:42pm
So Cyrus, once you kill off all the black people, then who are you going to start on? Asians? Muslims? Women who aren't blonde? Jews?

Do you truly think the world would be perfect if there were no people of different color in it?
Posted by Byelotsar :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:54pm
So Cyrus, once you kill off all the black people, then who are you going to start on?
Oh God, let it be spammers!
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:00am
"So Cyrus, once you kill off all the black people, then who are you going to start on? Asians? Muslims? Women who aren't blonde? Jews?"

Umm... when did I say anything about killing anyone? The only problem I have with Muslims and Jews is that I'm against religion of any kind. That's a discussion for another day though.

Speaking of Asians though... I love Asians! I actually think that most Asians (the Japanese specifically) are better than most whites. I think Japan is one of, if not the best, country in the world. I admire their rich culture and secularity. Plus, Japanese girls are so cute!

Now that I think of it though... you people are awfully prejudiced against me. You're making a lot of negative assumptions based on the fact that I don't like black people. It's very hypocritical of you. Why is it okay for you to hate?
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:12am
I'm prejudiced against anyone who advocates the suppression or destruction of other human beings, merely because they look or think differently.

I don't hate you...you merely disgust and sicken me.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:15am
"I'm prejudiced against anyone who advocates the suppression or destruction of other human beings, merely because they look or think differently."

Has nothing to do with the way they look or think. It's all the raping, killing, stealing and various other monkey shines they carry out on a regular basis. Have you even been paying attention?
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:24am
It's all the raping, killing, stealing and various other monkey shines they carry out on a regular basis. Have you even been paying attention?
Sort of like all the raping, killing (especially of family members and close associates, according to the Department of Justice), stealing, child and animal abuse, drug dealing and other monkey shines carried out by white people? Do you have the capacity to read and research, other than skewed data that you use to back up the nonsense you spew? Or has your obsessive hatred of blacks blinded you to the massive amounts of information that is out there to assist you in learning?

Human beings kill, rob, steal, rape, etc., no matter what the color of their skin. If you're going to hate for that reason, then you hate everyone.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:47am
"Human beings kill, rob, steal, rape, etc., no matter what the color of their skin."

While it's true that all races of people commit all manner of crimes, blacks commit them at an insanely higher rate. That was my point. Actually, I've said that a few times already... I wish you would pay attention >_< Are you even reading my entire posts before you hit the reply button?
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:53am
And as I've already pointed out, that's due to poor education and low income, which in turn are due to the system being stacked against them since the country was founded. In areas where blacks and white are at the same level of education and income, they also have the same rates of crime.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:09am
"that's due to poor education and low income, which in turn are due to the system being stacked against them since the country was founded."

More "whitey be keepin' us down" mentality. Could the reason blacks do so poorly in school be because they're intellectually inferior to other races? Naw, couldn't be! It makes more sense that "whitey be keepin' them down!"

"In areas where blacks and white are at the same level of education and income, they also have the same rates of crime."

Completely untrue... just read an article about that not too long ago. I know that you're going to want proof, but it's gonna take me a bit of time to scour the internet. Why don't you show me something that says you're right?
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:21am
http://jabpage.org/features/racestat/racestat11.html

The first page I found on poverty and race. Specifically that black and whites at the same level of poverty DO NOT commit the same level of crime... I know you're gonna say "but that guys racist so we won't listen to him!" so just look at the numbers, which of course (and again), come from the government.

I'm going to have to bow out for now though... too tired.
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:30am
Right. Fresh from 'Jerry's Aryan Page'. My pity abounds.
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:11am
Don't chastise me young man, or presume that you are in any way superior. Much as it pains me, I am reading your entire posts. If you hung out in other places besides your hate factory, you'd realize that people on this board (and many others) are intelligent, thoughtful bloggers, who back up what they say with solid information. Just because you choose not to believe it does not take away from its authenticity or the reality of the facts.

I think if you would review the percentiles given on the Department of Justice site (linked in the threads below) regarding murder, you'd see that your assertion that these crimes are committed at "an insanely higher rate" is, in a word, wrong.

The majority of people in this country have (thankfully) moved beyond the white robe and pointy hat mentality. You have had a bad experience with black people. That's unfortunate, but it doesn't mean that every black person in this country is the same, any more than every young white male in the South belongs to the KKK.

Broad generalizations make one appear uneducated and stupid. I suspect that you are quite capable of being a decent person. Hopefully some day you'll come to realize that people deserve to be judged as individuals, not by the behavior of others who happen to share their skin color.
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:26am
In my world, a person is a person, we do have some differences in skin tone, religion or origins and even age, but when it's all said and done, we're about unity. We can live with the minor differences, because the more of us there are, the stronger we are and the more we can support each other.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:24am
And the fact that white people do the same things makes no never mind to you, that's the problem I'm having. You act as if white people never do anything bad, that black people are the source of all trouble in the world, and then you accuse others of not paying attention. That's a little hard to understand.
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:28am
Not really, It's his own inadequacy he can't cope with and he's projecting it onto someone else, in hopes that no one will notice it.

Hay, How am I doin' on the Junior Psychologist scale?
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:57am
Hay, How am I doin' on the Junior Psychologist scale?
Yer doin' real fine. Freud hisself is probably snorting coke off a copy of the DSM and giving you the thumbs-up someplace.

As much fun as it is to watch you, Ryland and the rest squaring off with racists (homophobes and Bible-thumpers are fun, too), it really is a bit of a waste of bandwidth.

You're casting pearls before swine, friends.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:02am
Yeah, I'm taking a break right now, having a snack and watching some TV. You guys have fun.
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:19am
Dearest curmudgeon, so lovely to see you! Just knowing that you're lurking and smirking lifts my spirits.

The bosses haven't had much going on lately, so I'm keeping my typing skills up by exchanging witty repartee with this nimrod, knowing full well that nothing that we could say to him could ever break through the 9 yards of cement that resides in his cranium.

The adult kids are calling me to watch Star Wars IV, in commemoration of the 30th anniversary, so I'm out.

Take care darlins!!
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:42am
Nice to see you, Ryland, Comrade, Mermaid and the rest doing your bit for the betterment of humanity. It's a shame that Cyrus has given up and run away for now. I was looking most forward to sharpening my claws on some of that concrete. Oh well. We'll see if he comes back.

Just out of curiosity, how do clowns like this guy continue to operate out in the open? Up here, his brand of assbiscuitry and hate is outright illegal, since it promotes the hatred of (or even violence against) an identifiable group of people on the basis of race. Is there something similar in the US Criminal Code?
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:47am
Not as long as it's restricted to speech and speech-related activities (to coin a phrase). First Amendment, you know. But if someone carries their hate over into action and commits a crime, most states anymore have hate crime laws that call for stiffer sentences than for non-hate motivated crimes.
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 02:06am
I'm usually a staunch supporter of free speech, but hate speech is a whole different ballgame. Yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, that kind of thing. As SCOTUS has already pointed out, there can be reasonable restrictions on free speech if harm is likely to result. Thanks for the answer.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:54am
"You act as if white people never do anything bad, that black people are the source of all trouble in the world"

Where did I say that?

My issue is that blacks commit MORE crime than the other races while being a SMALLER percentage of the population. I never said whites commit ZERO crime, only that blacks commit MUCH, MUCH MORE crime than any other race.

"then you accuse others of not paying attention."

What is the problem you people have with reality? The fact that I have to say the same thing over and over again, and then hear you still grossly misquote me, pretty much proves your inability to pay attention adequately.
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:29am
My issue is that blacks commit MORE crime than the other races while being a SMALLER percentage of the population. I never said whites commit ZERO crime, only that blacks commit MUCH, MUCH MORE crime than any other race.
Really? The overwhelming majority of the money stolen in America lands in white pockets.

How about domestic terrorism? Genocide for oil, land or other resources? Corruption? Serial killers?

Guess what. Those are white crimes, and in terms of dollars, human suffering and lives lost, those white-dominated crimes far more serious than the crimes of blacks in the US, even after we correct for the difference in crime rates between various races.

Given that America is overwhelmingly white, the overwhelming majority of ALL crime is committed by whites. That's who you should be looking to exterminate if you're trying to control crime, not that I advocate the extermination of anyone. Hell, if you were to try and kill off enough modern, white Americans to make up for all the non-white people your brethren have slaughtered from the time of the USA's founding (after correcting for population growth), you'd have an empty country and there'd still be a few generations owing, so get off your high horse already. The biggest scumbags in the US of A aren't black. They're white.

You claim that black folks are more likely to be criminal, at least in terms of certain types of crime. In America that may be true, but maybe it has something to do with the way those particular black people have been treated and the absence of opportunities in their lives thanks to ignorant fools just like you making decisions in our societies.

Ever think about what those crime stats would look like if some ignorant fool hadn't kidnapped black peoples' ancestors and put them to work as slaves? Do you have any idea how many generations it takes to work the mindset of a slave class out of the human psyche? Moses led the Jews around in the desert for two generations to try and wipe the memory from their minds, and here we are several millenia later, still dealing with the consequences of the ways in which the Jews were mistreated in Egypt.

Oh, and just for your own reference, when the contents of an IQ test are adjusted for race specific knowledge and environment (i.e. terms and ideas that a black person is more likely to know vs. the standard questions aimed at white people), the IQ difference between blacks and whites all but disappears. IQ is a socially relevant construct, Cyrus. A person who doesn't speak or read English also does very badly on an American IQ test.

(Unfortunately this sort of information is usually hidden from public view inside things like books).

We're not the ones with a reality problem Cyrus, you are.
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:17am
I'm no fan of religion, either, but then, I don't really worry about it, because in the main, it doesn't bother or affect me in any wise. If that's what people feel they have to do, more power to them. It's their business.

Who said anything about 'hate'? I called you an arsehole, because that's the behaviour you display. If anything(and I have to point this out, as you seem just a bit slow on the uptake) I pity you, more than anything else. You hate, and that hate can be manipulated by people who are cleverer than you. You are not in control of yourself, since you are blinded by your prejudices. And you know, it wouldn't matter a fig what 'race' you were or what your heritage, you're still an arsehole. People can cop to that, and will return it in kind.

I don't like everyone I meet, and not everyone likes me, the owner of the company I work for can barely conceal his dislike of me(he's got a thing about tattoos, and doesn't care much for my deliberate lack of hair). However, he's not an arsehole, nor am I, and we have managed to be civil over the last seven years. You reap what you sow. Once you get a handle on that, then things might change.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:29am
If I hated you, I'd have banned you, or deleted your comments. But I haven't, and I won't, even though you seem to have a problem with calling people "retarded" (or rather, "retarted") and a seemingly superhuman immunity to observed reality.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:31am
Not to mention that if I hated you, I wouldn't have invited you over in the first place. Sorry it hasn't been all hugs and kisses, but what did you expect?
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:34am
If he's retarted, does that mean Comrade's gone back to wearing 4" heels and slutty make-up again? :)
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:47am
If he's retarted, does that mean Comrade's gone back to wearing 4" heels and slutty make-up again? :)

Oh Don't tell!
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:41am
Oh man, forgive me for misspelling "retarded" once. : (

I got it right every other time I used it.

I must be doing better than I thought if you guys are gonna start picking on a single spelling mistake. A single letter off no less...
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:43pm
Sounds like another variation of "This is all whitey's fault!"
No, it's not a variation of anything. You're an arsehole plain and simple. Skin colour don't enter into it. It's not 'whitey's fault'. It's your fault. Sucks to be you.
Posted by Byelotsar :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:35pm
Same. I used to work at a place that was staffed probably half by blacks and lived in a neighborhood and apartment complex that were overwhelmingly so. It was a little odd (a lot odd, actually) being a minority for the first time, but I never once had the slightest problem with any of them.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:34pm
Sorry to tell you, but your psychic powers are broken. I've lived in predominantly black and Hispanic neighborhoods. Hell, I used to own a house off of Montopolis Avenue, and if you know Austin, you know that area is well over 95% black and Hispanic. Most of the places I've worked have been predominantly black and Hispanic, I've worked several places where I was literally the only white guy. And I am here to tell you, working with white people has almost always been less pleasant than with black or Hispanic people. Maybe you got traumatized by a bad experience and that's why you're a racist, and if that's so, I'm sorry for you.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:37pm
At this point, you've proven just how full of shit you are.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:59pm
How? By countering your anecdotal evidence with my anecdotal evidence?
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:02am
Actually, anecdotal-evidence wise, we have Cyrus on the run. I think we should send him some Prep-H pads as a consolation prize so he can cool the burning and itching.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:12am
"Actually, anecdotal-evidence wise, we have Cyrus on the run."

No, seriously, are you retarted? I am actually starting to rethink the whole "whites are better than blacks" after listening to such an idiotic white person...

"I think we should send him some Prep-H pads as a consolation prize so he can cool the burning and itching."

Why didn't you just say, "I bring absolutely nothing of any intelligent value to this discussion, so instead I'm going to try and make jokes that aren't even close to being funny!"

That would have made more sense...
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:23am
Let's see, the best you've got is 'are you retarded?' and a weak dis of a joke. If yr such a wit, there, holmes, then lip up. Slay me with yr superior White intellect.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:32am
I wasn't joking. It was a serious question.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:44am
If you're saying that "are you retarded?" was a serious question, you should consider the fact that he can spell better than you can.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:47am
In fact, I'm going to have to point that up as a failing of racists in general. If you're going to criticize the intelligence of an entire race, it is well not to be illiterate yourself.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:07am
"How? By countering your anecdotal evidence with my anecdotal evidence?"

No. It's because in one post you say you know a few black people, but then in the next post you make it sound like you live in South Africa.

So we've already come to the conclusion that anecdotal evidence won't suffice. Neither will statistics or scientific studies... What will work then? What's it gonna take? The problem is that you don't want to be proven wrong. You want to keep living in your fairy tale world...
...
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:20am
You asked me how many black people I know and am friends with, as in the present tense. Currently, in the present tense, I live in a predominantly white neighborhood, and due to recurring health problems, I don't get out much, so consequently I don't have many friends or acquaintances of any color. Of the ones I currently have, most are white, a few are black, a few are Asian, etc. That's now, in the present day. Up until a few years ago, I worked in an office or factory or whatever and was around more people, and I lived in a variety of neighborhoods, so it was different.
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:14pm
You know, we could play this dumb little game 'tll the end of time. You're right though, talking about IQ tests and crime statistics won't prove anything.
Heaven forbid we cloud the issue with facts.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:23pm
"Heaven forbid we cloud the issue with facts."

Yeah, I decided to go ina different direction because you guys were just ignoring the facts.
Posted by Mocking the Riot Squad :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:05pm
[Y]ou'd have to be brain dead to not realize that there are many vast and fundamental differences between blacks and whites.
Sure, buddy, keep deluding yrself. Everyone needs a hobby, I suppose.
Know what this snap is? It's a guy yelling OI! at the top of his lungs while listening to a Florida Hardcore band called Sick of Society at the East Coast OI! Fest. Now whip out all yr nice little stereotypes and explain that one. Real vast difference between what he was doing, and what I was doing at the time, there was. That guy has a lot more in common with me than any of you stooges ever will.

You all are 'realists'? I don't think so. Fools and stooges is more like it. The only thing your obsession with 'niggers' does for you is keep you distracted from the people who are really stealing from you and doing crimes, such as our pretend prez and all his spiffy little pals.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:11pm
So you're using ONE black person that likes rock to counter my argument... ONE? Let me get this straight... one? All the statistical data on crime and IQ don't mean shit because you know ONE black guy that likes rock?

Seriously... are you retarded?
Posted by Mocking the Riot Squad :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:14pm
The only one I have a picture of to hand. And it's not 'rock', it's OI! there is a difference, not that you'd know. Still can't explain it though, can you?
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:26pm
"Still can't explain it though, can you?"

What do you want me to explain now? Why some random black guy likes the same kind of music as you? Maybe you both just have bad taste?
Posted by Mocking the Riot Squad :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:32pm
More than 'one random guy'. Actually numerous random people, some of whom I know, and some I don't. People who've wised up and know that the 'culture' these days is perped by rich white people who could care less about them. Funny thing is, you put anyone, regardless of heritage in the milieu I hang out in, and it's amazing how we all act the same. Guess some people can see past superficial differences and some can't.
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 09:01pm
I have only two words to say: Mitochondrial DNA. Read up on it gents.
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 09:51pm
From the US Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs:
Although slightly less true now than before,
most murders are intraracial

From 1976 to 2004 --

* 86% of white victims were killed by whites
* 94% of black victims were killed by blacks
I particularly find the victim/offender relationship statistics interesting. In all cases, white people kill their family members and close associates more than black people do. Whites are more likely to commit sex related murders, and murders in the workplace.
Posted by capt. larsen :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:15pm
In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man.

What this means is that every day in the United States, over one hundred white women are raped or sexually assaulted by a black man.

Read on:http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=28129
Posted by Mocking the Riot Squad :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:21pm
Right. And how many assaults go unreported by black women? Incidentally, can you find a non-Fascist cite? Anything with old Trotskyite Horowitz' name right on the front page is not exactly credible to me. Horowitz is a bottom feeder-maybe one step above the likes of you, but not much.
Posted by capt. larsen :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:28pm
Care to read the Bureau of Justice's statistics?

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/cvusst.htm
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:30pm
Already posted in this thread Mr. Larsen. Perhaps if you were capable of reading, you'd have picked up on that.
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:24pm
Ahhhh, frontpagemag.com, home of the world famous jihad watch. Now that's a reputable and well recognized source if I've ever seen one.
Editor's note: Lawrence Auster has posted a correction to this article on the legal lynching of the Duke students, the presumption that white males are rapists and racists and the failure to hold blacks and whites to a single standard. The statistics in his article were incorrect, but the points the article makes about liberal hypocrisy and liberal racism were not.
Hello? The site's own editor notes that the statistics are INCORRECT, and yet you continue to tout this as evidence. Please less twaddle, and more facts.
Posted by capt. larsen :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:30pm
I forgot, facts are racist to libs like you.
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:34pm
Your statement means nothing, especially in light of the editor's comment. Perhaps you should go back and read your bookmarked sites to make sure there haven't been updates, prior to brandishing them around.
Posted by Mocking the Riot Squad :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:38pm
I'm not a 'lib', whatever that is. Nor am I a communist, so you can disabuse yrself of that notion, too. I just tack 'comrade' on because planaria like yrself get all sideways when you see it. Yes, your 'facts' are racist to me. But then, you're a racist, so it all works out.
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:38pm
Bloody thing tacked on the wrong name.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:43pm
Please explain how a fact can be racist.
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:47pm
Ask your racist buddy...he's the one who said it originally.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:21am
"Ask your racist buddy...he's the one who said it originally."

He was being facetious and remarking to the effect that any fact you don't want to believe you automatically label "racist" to discredit it amongst yourselves.

Wow, you really don't pay attention, do you.
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:48pm
You manipulate things to suit your agenda, and rationalise like a bastard. Leave bits out, cobble things together, whatever. The fact, in and of itself isn't racist, but the way you use it is.
Posted by Cyrus982 :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:30am
"You manipulate things to suit your agenda, and rationalise like a bastard."

You're right, you got us. What we did, was we all got together and asked the black folks really nice if they could go out rob, rape, and steal and a rate far higher than any other race. It was tough convincing them to oblige, but after a bucket or two of KFC and a few forties they went straight to work. (Work in the figurative sense, since we convinced them not to work either.) So then when the government came along to do its usual gathering of crime statistics, all it came up with was racist data that we manipulated! (Which we now, of course, use to justify our dislike of the negroid race!)

I'm shocked that you were able to figure out our plan! Now all of our hard work is ruined : (
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:45am
Oh, you're a witty one, all right. Pitiful. Funny thing is, for all their alleged criminality, the blacks have never managed to pull off capers like Enron, never blew up 168 innocent people in a federal office building, never led this country into a war based on lies that has thus far cost 3000+ lives, run the country into the deepest deficit ever, didn't sit with their thumbs up their arse on holiday while a major American city drowned, didn't run around in lynch mobs stringing people up for no particularly good reason, didn't sell weapons to the Iranians so as to fund the Nicuaugran insurgency illegally, etc. Oh, and let's not forget upstanding White citizens like Adolph Hitler, Al Capone, Josef Stalin, John Dillinger, Bonnie and Clyde, Joseph Mengele, Lucky Luciano and their Ilk. Never mind the government of South Africa, The Vichy Regime, Freansico Franco, Benito Mussolini, and so on.
Posted by JC :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:46pm
"During our brief stay on planet Earth, we owe ourselves and our descendants the opportunity to explorein part because it's fun to do. But there's a far nobler reason. The day our knowledge of the cosmos ceases to expand, we risk regressing to the childish view that the universe figuratively and literally revolves around us. In that bleak world, arms-bearing, resource-hungry people and nations would be prone to act on their "low contracted prejudices." And that would be the last gasp of human enlightenmentuntil the rise of a visionary new culture that could once again embrace the cosmic perspective. " -Neil deGrasse Tyson (One of the smartest Humans on Earth)

And...for all of your regular readers like me, please close this thread...The thought that this might be associated with you in SERPs or otherwise makes me cringe.
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:49pm
Thanks JC...what a breath of fresh air.
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 05, 2007 11:53pm
Woah, are you that JC? Do the loaves and fishes trick! Water into wine would be cool, too, but I'd be happy if you could like make my corkscrew manifest, so I can start working on last Xmas's stock.
Posted by JC :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:02am
The more you share it, the more it's worth.

...Like the loaves and the fishes that were shared, it behoves us to share the knowledge, understanding, and insight we have gained with our scientific activities with others on this earth...

haha, sorry couldn't resist.
Posted by Bitcloud :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:06am
This is some kind work of art there Ryland... nice work

I'd read the comments, but something about "debating racism" doesn't make it seem like I'd be smarter for it...
Posted by Blackstar :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 09:41am
Highly Entertaining, Ryland. I don't think it'd be wise to add anything to the conversation, as I'd inherently just end up committing violence and/or raping some white women.
Posted by Amy Bo Bamy :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 11:47am
Geez, I go out on a nice Tuesday evening for a quiet dinner of sushi and I miss ALL OF THIS!?!? =

I wonder what these folks think about Condi Rice? Colin Powell...Tiger Woods...Oprah Winfrey...Barack Obama...I sincerely have a hard time believing that these n*ggermania guys would consider these high-profile people "animals."
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 02:43pm
No kidding! I went on a late field trip, and then had an indoor soccer trip. I missed all of the fun!
Posted by martin :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 11:47am
I suspect much of this debate is rendered void by the fact that it takes place in black text on a white field.
Posted by tennesseeblue :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:32pm
Sorry to bring a dose of reality into this thing but I've got to do it.

I graduated from a Memphis city school. When I attended it there was about a 60/40 black to white split. I was the only white boy on the basketball team and I'll tell you I never had one single confrontation or fight or conflict with any black student in the entire school. There was never ever any type of black-white tension either. By the way, my junior year the valadictorian was a black guy. My senior year it was an asian guy. I can tell you right now that there are most assuredly a million plus black people who are have a higher I.Q. than you and your buddies have. How can that be explained? I suppose it's just accidents of mother nature, kind of like a two-headed snake or 4-legged chicken that there might accidentally be a few smart 'animals'? Sure!

Memphis was and is one of my favorite places ever (I now live in middle tennessee). I enjoyed living there and I enjoy when I return to visit. I hear white people all the time talking with fear about Memphis and how they don't ever want to go there because it's so 'bad'. That is the voice of fear and ignorance. I've never feared Memphis and therefore I've never had problems there. I also can tell you that I am in sales and deal with black businesses and Churches all of the time and have frequently been the only white person in the room. Am I sometimes uncomfortable when I realize I'm the minority? Yes, sometimes. However, I don't let my fear take over! If you guys would only have the great fortune of experiencing truly becoming friends with a black person, you would see by interacting and searching their soul that they are every bit as human as every other race. Do the Sharpton's and Jackson's of the world cause me to cringe? YES! Power can corrupt blacks as easily as it corrupts whites!

Maybe if you truly felt good about yourself in your heart, you would not feel the need the degrade others. If you will continue to have real dialogue with people who feel differently than you do, maybe you will gain a bit of a change to your view just a little over time. I pray that it can happen.
Posted by VQ :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 12:34pm
What I honestly don't get is this:

It's ok for blacks to be racist, and call white people honkies and what not, there's even a video (a couple in fact) that have blacks promoting the extermination of whites, yet there's no public outcry or concern. However, if a white was to do the same, he'd be news world wide and the number 1 hated person alive.

But there is very little use sitting here trying to prove anything, because number 1.) You'll all disagree no matter how much facts you have presented to you and 2.) I've got better things do to.

Freedom of speech sucks doesn't it? Especially for commy liberals.
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:05pm
I can only speak for myself, but racism is wrong whether it's you or a black person or anyone else doing it. You claim blacks are evil because they're racists. You're a racist. By your own logic, you are evil.

While we're on the subject of facts and reality:

How many whites were tossed overboard by black slave traders in the Middle Passage?

How many whites were lynched or otherwise killed by black racists over the past 230 years?

How many black racists hold public office in the United States?

How many laws and Supreme Court decisions rendered by black justices have declared white people to be the property of black people, or have declared white people to have only a fraction of a soul?

You're so interested in facts and reality, why don't you look those facts up? Oh, that's right, your hate comes first, and reality comes later. Now run along and work on getting your sheets extra white for tonight's cross-burning, why don't you?

Reality sucks, doesn't it? Especially for ignorant racists.
Posted by Blackstar :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:32pm
"However, if a white was to do the same, he'd be news world wide and the number 1 hated person alive."

How do explain why you and your moronic elk don't have an entire TV news station dedicated to your stupidity???
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:57pm
They do, it's called "Fox News".
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 02:08pm
Or am I missing others?
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:40pm
If you were presenting facts (not just personal assertions), you might find us agreeing with you. However, when you say things like "there's even a video", without a link or a name, it's difficult to take what you're saying seriously.

Do you know anything about the movie The Birth of A Nation? Have you ever had the opportunity to watch it? The creator of this movie certainly was not hated worldwide, nor was there a huge outcry (other than among the people who were wrongly being portrayed as raping, murdering animals). It took many, many years before the public finally acknowledged that the content of that film was racist and disgusting.

Racism on anyone's part is not acceptable, be they white, black, yellow, red or brown. We are all human beings...and that's a fact.

Another fact: free speech never sucks, no matter how one thinks, or what one's political affiliation is. Only a fool who knows nothing about what a precious gift free speech is, would take it for granted in such a way as you have.
Posted by Amy Bo Bamy :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 01:57pm
Do you know anything about the movie The Birth of A Nation? Have you ever had the opportunity to watch it?
I'm going to hazard a guess and say probably not, as B/W silents require reading and are just oh-so-boring compared to today's movie standards.
Posted by blackstar :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 02:06pm
I'd say the complete opposite. THoaN is like the Bible to these types.
Posted by blackstar :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 02:07pm
TBoaN
Posted by Amy Bo Bamy :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 04:20pm
You're probably absolutely right. I was under the (I guess naive) impression that the only people who watched this movie in any serious way were film students.
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 02:55pm
You do realize, don't you, that you're just preaching to the choir, and that the guys from n*ggermania are totally not going to learn anything? The fun is the snappy comebacks to the foolish comments.
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 03:30pm
Absolutely true, but to paraphrase the esteemed Hercule Poirot, it is an exercise of the little grey cells.
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 02:47pm
Freedom of speech sucks doesn't it? Especially for commy liberals.
I dunno...you seem to be the one who is all flustered and frustrated by the commie liberal talk. We're perfectly fine!
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 07:50pm
What's a commy? Just for yr edification, it's commie. Next time you can be a little less wrong. So since yr another stunning Aryan intellectual, why not enlighten us on communism?
Posted by VQ :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 10:10pm
Well, I'm ever so sorry! English is not my maiden tongue! And for English to be my secondary language, it's not so bad now is it? Much better then "dis here be muh dik" Ebonics I hear. And what's "yr?" If you meant to spell "your" or "you're" you're a bit off base. So learn how to spell before you criticize me.

The video's you've requested are,
http://media.snuffx.com/100407/media.php?media=snuffx-dot-com-black-hitler.wmv

and

http://www.nocensorship.us/tnb_1.html

VQ
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 10:42pm
Learned the proper racist words quickly enough though, didn't you?
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 10:57pm
I listened to the man speaking to the empty room on the no censorship site, and I didn't hear anything about killing white people. I heard him discussing problems in the black community, brought on by the greed of large corporations (owned by white people). The feed stopped at that point.

The other site - sorry, I don't frequent snuff sites that advocate rape or teen sex. Don't post these for me to look at in the future - they are beyond disgusting.

If these are the only two examples of "facts" you can come up with, I'm not convinced.
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 11:15pm
You didn't answer my question, now did you? I didn't ask for Nazi vids, I want to hear from you. What 'ebonics' are you going to hear in Europe anyway? I don't seem to hear any of that over here, particularly the phrase you mention. Bad enough you're Euro White Trash, worse that you are an american wannabe, parroting lines like 'liberal commy[sic]'. Incidentally, 'yr' is an acceptable contraction of 'your' or 'you're' in american English, My software has an automatic spellchecker which highlights misspellings, and it's pretty accurate.
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 02:55am
VQ, or louisfarakoon....I still want to know what you consider a n*gger to be? Do you base this opinion on skin color? Place of origin?
Posted by VQ :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 01:40am
Don't visit snuff sites, right...

Since you're too stupid to realize what a nigger is, anything coming out of Africa the past couple of hundred of years. (You know, the boot lipped, nappy headed, shit colored "things" that come over in the boat loads?)

And I'm pretty sure that 99% of the posters here are niggers, thats why there is such a rampant refusal to see the truth.

VQ OUT
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 02:20am
The only "boat loads" of black people that ever "came over" to America were brought "over" by white folks looking for free labour. Exploiting people of different races is the American Way (well, the white way at least).

Here's some free educational advice: look up the "Middle Passage". Hint: it's not part of your intestines. When you're done with that, look up "Triangle Trade".

You've got nobody to blame for the so-called "failings" of black people in America that you're going on and on and ON about but your own ancestors. You know, those white folks who created this racially charged situation we find ourselves in today, the same white people who condemned the descendants of kidnapped and enslaved black people to countless generations of poverty and suffering. I guess it's a good thing that your ancestors were too lazy to do any work themselves, otherwise you'd have nobody around to hate. Nah, I'm sure you'd find somebody to blame for your own inadequacies and the stupidity of your progenitors.

As for "niggers", let me tell you something. As a racist, you are the nigger now. You're the outcast, the potentially criminal and defective human being that nobody wants to talk to. You're the one nobody gives a damn about, the one we all sweep under the rug as an embarrassment to our societies. The one most civilized societies toss in prison for being a nuisance.

Get used to it. One of these days, America will join the rest of the human race and start treating racism as a crime. Don't ever leave home, by the way - if you aren't refused entry into most countries, you'll be arrested for the kind of things you and your buddies have to say.

While you're rotting in prison, study a bit of history. Hate always loses.
Posted by RainDaemon :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 04:03am
VQ - IMHO you are not contributing anything useful to this discussion. You're just trolling. Either learn some tact or stop posting.
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 09:18am
As much as I disagree with your racist rants, I have yet to write anything that even remotely attacks you or your ilk. You just moved the discussion into the trash as far as I'm concerned. Take your views and go home. You are adding nothing to this site - as a matter of fact, you're contaminating it. Go back to n*ggermania and continue to stroke each other off. I'm done with you.

MERMAID OUT
Posted by louisfarakoon :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 07:01pm
The TRUTH HURTS doesn't it Ryland. niggermania provides pages and pages of FACTS .

How about niggers built the pyramids in Egypt?
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 07:47pm
How about niggers built the pyramids in Egypt?
So, do you consider that a fact, or are you disputing this information? Why would that hurt Ryland?

The history of the Nubian people is the history of Egypt. Not sure what you're trying to say here.
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 07:51pm
Neither is he.
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 08:06pm
Why is it that airheads who are looking for a way to rationalize their irrational hatred of others are always the ones ranting and raving about "truth" and "facts", when they frequently can't even spell the words.

I'm always amused when one of these clowns calls someone who doesn't hate others on the basis of race/religion/choice of hairstyles a "race traitor". The only "race traitors" I've ever encountered are racists. They're betraying the entire human race.

Facts, huh? You like facts? They're "truth" and "facts" just because they're on your webpage? OK. This sounds like fun, and it's such a departure from decades of actually having to prove what I'm saying that it might take me a few tries to get the ol' fact creation process rolling. So here's a "fact", some "truth" if you will: racists are invariably inbred and suffer from a moderate form of retardation as a result of living under rocks.

See, I said it, and it's on Ryland's webpage. So now it's a "fact", and it's "truth", and I'm sure it "hurts" just as badly as your vile nonsense (oops, sorry, "truth") does. We can play that game too, Mr. Racist. Shall we create a few more "facts" about you? How'd you like to have 15 toes? Keep it up and I'll even toss in a superfluous nipple or two.

By the way, do please try to cross the border into Canada or most of Europe sometime soon. We throw your sort of trash in prison, where I can virtually guarantee you'll get to know a few black, brown, yellow and red men up-close and personal. Somehow I don't think they'll care much for your "facts", and they might be a bit less delicate about saying so than I've been.
Posted by louisfarakoon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 01:21pm
Canada and most of Europe huh? We have something here called Freedom of Speech Dickhead
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 02:17pm
And here we have something called a "tolerant society", you racist piece of filth.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 02:32pm
I said be nice, please.
Posted by RainDaemon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 02:37pm
Yes, this becomes a lot more interesting if you stop being dicks and argue your point'sof view as tactfully as you're capable.
Posted by RainDaemon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 02:39pm
And by you, i mean we. :D
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 03:36pm
I was called a "Dickhead". I simply replied in kind. But I will make an effort to ignore the barbs sure to come my way out of respect for you.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 03:42pm
Thanks. I'm giving the racists some leeway, because it's basically a given that they're going to be uncouth. Let's hold ourselves to a bit higher standard, though.
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 09:58pm
'Freedom of Speech', eh? For you. When somebody answers your speech in a way you don't like, you want to shut them up. Don't they have 'Freedom of Speech', too?(no) Typical republican thinking. If you open yr mouth, expect a response, especially with the rubbish you spew.
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 08:37pm
Here's a serious question...do you guys only hate African-Americans? Cubans? Anybody with brown skin? I'm just trying to understand what a real n*gger is. (It's such a vile word to me that I can't even write it...)
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 08:57pm
I wonder if they count in people from India who have really, really dark skin?

Having been raised with a bigot in the house (my dear old Da), I know that people from his part of the South used to say "nigra" when talking about people of African American descent. If he was angry about a specific black person, he called them a "n*gger". I've always thought that nigra is a bastardization of the word "negra", which means black in Spanish. Doesn't excuse the bigotry, but it kind of provides an understanding of the word use. When he said "nigra", he was defining the person by their race, like we say Latino or Black or Native American.

So, that's a good question Mermaid. Just what color does one's skin have to be, in order for the lads over at the website in question to hate one? Do they have a chart?
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 06, 2007 09:07pm
Especially when you watch a professional baseball game. To us, a guy from the Dominican Republic looks like an African American, but his origin isn't really African.

I think.
Posted by louisfarakoon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 01:23pm
We only dislike niggers. All other humans are ok. You noticed niggers are NEVER allowed to post on the Forums of Niggermania
Posted by RainDaemon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 01:29pm
Erm, officer 'Koon' - would you tell us kindly exactly by your very definition what the word 'nigger' means.
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 02:09pm
You noticed niggers are NEVER allowed to post on the Forums of Niggermania
How on earth would you know the color of the person who was posting?

What a bunch of yoyos.
Posted by RainDaemon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 07:02am
This seems to be a pretty hot topic but before i throw in my 2 cents, i'd like one of these racist 'niggermaniacs' to define in their own words exactly what the term 'nigger' means.
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 09:04am
I'm not sure they'll answer...I've already asked twice to no avail...
Posted by louisfarakoon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 01:28pm
Define nigger?? Non Human species of African lineage. Not quite as smart as chimps and very violent behaviour. Everything revolves around MUH DIK, rape, Malt Liquor, KFC, Welfare. The buck of the species never owns up to its offsrpring and preferes to mate with " White Wimminz" The Sow, prefers to have niglet after niglet to increase their welfare. Niggers rarely get out of bed before noon unless its the first of the month . Their diet consists of malt liquor, KFC and crack cocaine
Posted by RainDaemon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 01:55pm
Apart from the fact that you're obviously talking out of your arse (in a trollish manner suggested by your use of multiple question and exclamation marks!!!?!?) i'll attempt to analyze various aspects of your argument.

i Feel i should mention before i do though that you've contradicted yourself:
We only dislike niggers. All other humans are ok.

...

Your argument about whether or not these people can be described as humans is completely flawed (apart from your aforementioned self-contradiction) - i suggest you consult professionals in the fields of human biology and genetics before drawing any conclusions on this topic.

Just because a single person of a culture or ethnic group behaves in a certain manner, doesn't mean that all the members of said group will. i Know good and bad white people, black people and people of every other "race".
If you abhor certain aspects of human behavior, you should channel your hatred toward those aspects. i Don't think you're capable of understanding this concept though, so i think my point is moot.

Your argument about average IQ and negroid/mongoloid/Caucasoid people is ridiculous. By your argument that 'niggers' should be enslaved by supposedly more intelligent 'white people', you should be arguing that 'white people' should be similarly enslaved under Asian domination.

Another thing. Since i am a (white - very white) South African - i have seen in my lifetime first-hand how forced segregation and discrimination can fuck up a country to the point where over 10 years down the line there are still problems.
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 03:10pm
Mr. Koon...so is RainDaemon a n*gger because he's from South Africa? Why do your definitions always contain the same cliche phrases? MUH DIK has appeared numerous times. Is this a mantra you guys chant every day while facing the Great White North (not Canada...just wanted Great White in there)? White Wimminz? Please. Your arguments would be much more thought provoking if you didn't use such pejorative words and cliches. I'm missing your message (whatever it is) because I'm getting hung up on the tired word usage.

Is RainDaemon a n*gger?
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 09:44pm
They chant the mantra in hopes that they will finally find theirs.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 03:13pm
In other words, a nigger is a nigger. The definition of nigger is: nigger. Circular argument.
Posted by E_B_A :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 01:48pm
Woah... this can't be good. For one thing, race doesn't exist, but as these assholes prove, racism still does.

But hey, the Earth is apparently flat and all that too.

What a bunch of idiots.
Posted by E_B_A :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 02:00pm
And just FYI since I'm positive you're too stupid to click the "author bios" link, I'm a VERY conservative Libertarian and about as far removed from a Liberal as a person can get.

But still, I should reiterate, race does not exist. Only racism.

From a scientific perspective anyway...
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 03:16pm
louisfarkoon has been e-mailing me:
You and your friends have FAILED to prove us wrong
I replied:
What would constitute proof to you? What could I say to you or show you that would convince you?
He repeats:
You have failed to prove your point against niggermania. Niggers are a plight on society anyway you slice it. Prove to me that there is some good in niggers
I replied again:
I'm asking you, what would you consider proof? What would you have to see to be convinced you were wrong?
I asked him to post this stuff here on ABAHC instead of in e-mail, we'll see.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 03:21pm
Considering that there's no precise or objective definition for what constitutes a "nigger", I doubt there's any way to factually refute his "arguments". It's like asking if there's something good about "bad"; "bad" is a subjective word describing what one doesn't like or appreciate, and so, I suspect, is "nigger". A "nigger" is what he calls a "nigger", not any objective, real-world thing. It's basically a religious belief, not subject to logic or reason.
Posted by RainDaemon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 03:30pm
Words of wisdom:
Chris Rock - Niggers vs Black people.

A fundamental concept that these nigger-hating crackers don't understand is that PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT. It's what makes life so interesting! It's what makes use think, love, hate, argue and share ideas. If there were no niggers there'd be no nigger-hating crackers! It's a fucked-up post-predestination paradox!

Can you imagine how boring the world would be if we were all the same. Hoy i respect Mr. Koon's right to be an asshole but hating people for no logical reason is just silly.

Btw as a somewhat bizarre counter-argument, racism itself has had positive effects. Do you think we'd know about MLK or Nelson Mandela if it wasn't for racism?
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 12:40am
It is rather like trying to talk a religious fanatic out of a particular point of view, isn't it? I'm beginning to understand how you atheists must feel when dealing with the religious frootloops out there.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 01:25am
Yeah, it's almost exactly like that, in that a racist allows his beliefs to trump observed reality. And yeah, it's frustrating.
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 03:38pm
A "plight" on society? Maybe he's trying to say "blight"? I think Mermaid has the right of it - no matter how much definitive, factual information we provide them with, they will tell us how stupid we are, how we have "failed".

"Prove to me that there are some good n*ggers".

I don't think that's possible with these folks. For example, I found the information contained in the link I provided regarding Nubia to be extremely enlightening - I didn't realize that civilization went back 9000 years - but I'm not convinced that these dimwits would see anything "good" in the accomplishments of the Nubian people (I'd call them pretty awe inspiring).

It's really doubtful that these guys have the mental capacity to take in any information other than what they feel supports and validates their reason for hating. I'd like to believe that the combined education, knowledge and humanity (which gives me a great deal of pleasure and a sense of pride) of the members of this blog could make a difference in these folks lives, but I'm thinkin' that's not going to be the case. Too bad - we have a lot to offer - but a closed mind is rarely opened by the wise counsel of others.

We'll see.
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 04:16pm
It's really doubtful that these guys have the mental capacity to take in any information other than what they feel supports and validates their reason for hating.
I hate to sound like I'm defending them, but I'm not convinced these guys are total inbred redneck hicks.
but a closed mind is rarely opened by the wise counsel of others.
I think that this is more the case. Ignorance is not bliss. Ignorance is dangerous and can be life threatening. It causes persecution of innocents and perpetuates that persecution and hatred.

It is quite sad, actually.
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 12:11am
louisfarkoon has been e-mailing me:
You and your friends have FAILED to prove us wrong

Dammit! I didn't know this was a contest.
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 12:38am
I gather if you don't agree with every word of their drivel, you're some kind of "race traitor". At least that's what most white power/supremacist and KKK types call it. Thanks, but I'd really rather "betray" a bunch of racists than the human race.
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 01:13am
I'd really rather "betray" a bunch of racists than the human race.
Amen, My Brother.
Posted by louisfarakoon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 03:30pm
I can not believe that I am hearing this. You know very well what a nigger can be seen here:

http://niggermania.org/tom/gallery/gallery.html

You people are smarter than that. Just because one is from south africa does not a nigger make :)
Posted by RainDaemon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 03:38pm
Awwwww... and my buddy von braun calls me nigger all the time. Now i feel cheated.
You'd like a friend of mine - a coloured chap who listens to Prussian Blue

Anyway - You do yourself realize you could just as easily create a montage called 'inbred cracker hicks'
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 03:45pm
Those girls' mother should be ashamed of herself. I've seen programs on them, and hearing that kind of racist hate fall from the mouths of such beautiful children is beyond sad. Yuck.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 03:39pm
So, is anyone with black skin of African descent a nigger? Or just anyone with black skin no matter where they're from? How about if someone is mulatto (half black, half white)? What percentage of a person's heritage or genetic makeup has to be of black African descent to be considered a nigger? Say, for example, a person is of a white family, but their great-great-grandfather was black; is that person a nigger because they're 1/16 black but still have white skin?
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 03:49pm
Just because one is from south africa does not a nigger make :)
Non Human species of African lineage
How do you know the difference? Do you do DNA tests? Are you being facetious when you say non-human since scientists know that the human genome is the same in blacks, whites, asians, etc.?
Posted by RainDaemon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 03:54pm
Non Human species of African lineage

Sounds like a few thousand species i could name.

How about Bonobos? Interesting critters...
Are they niggers?
If people were more like them, this world would be paradise.
Posted by louisfarakoon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 04:00pm
a mullato or as we call Halfricans are niggers. if you have .005% black in your blood you are a nigger
Posted by RainDaemon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 04:05pm
Okay, assuming you're not a creationist - check this out:
Since homo sapiens has its evolutionary roots in Africa,
WE ARE ALL NIGGERS.
Posted by louisfarakoon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 04:12pm
Maybe you are a nigger but I am WHITE
Posted by RainDaemon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 04:17pm
You sure?
Were you assembled from hand-picked lab-synthesized white genetic material from some secret version of the Miller-Urey experiment?

Your parents white?
Grandparents?
Great-grandparents?
Great^25th grandparents?

Prove this.
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 04:18pm
Doooooood! What Rain Daemon is saying is that your roots are African also. Africa is the cradle of civilization.
Posted by RainDaemon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 04:25pm
Cultures, civilizations born in Africa that have been destroyed by (mostly) white missionaries. Inchoate cultures that have never been granted the chance to develop.

In response to the 'Mah Dik' thing, the wise words of the great Richard Pryor:
"You white folks done stole everything else. Nigga be checkin'"
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 06:35pm
He was a very, very funny man.
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 05:06pm
Actually, you're more pink than white.

If you get a suntan, I guess you have to stop hanging out with all your racist pals. Bummer.
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 09:47pm
If you are the definition of 'white', I'm cross-decking to the cats.

Hay I has a DOG. HISSSSSS!
Posted by louisfarakoon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 06:10pm
I know our family history back the 1500's. My grandmother was into geneology and I have seen the charts. In other wordsTHERE IS NO NIGGER IN MY WOOD PILE
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 06:20pm
Because all of the affairs and illegitimite kids are charted also, right?
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 06:26pm
You may have seen the charts, but words on paper don't tell the whole story. People of past generations generally did not discuss indiscretions or children who were born on the wrong side of the blanket. Unless the secret was told, many took it to their graves.

It's wonderful to be proud of one's ancestry (as I am - mine goes back to the early kings and queens of England on my mother's paternal side), but no one can say with any real certainty what blood runs in their veins.

Mitochondrial DNA evidence strongly indicates that we are all descended from one mother. Sorry to break it to you, but that mother was black. The human geonome doesn't lie.
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 09:35pm
Posted by louisfarakoon :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 06:52pm
Yes we are all linked to one mother Eve and she was white as was her husband Adam who was also white
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 07:14pm
That's a very ethnocentric view. If the origin of Homo sapiens was Africa, how could two (fictitious) people from that area be caucasian?
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 07:36pm
Louie apparently doesn't know many Middle Eastern Jews. They're usually not what one would describe as "white".

However - I'll play along. If the first mother and father were white, why are there so many different colored people in the world today? How could there be such diversity in people, if they all came from one white couple?

Grab your bunny slippers and blanky Mermaid, we're in for a whale of a tale. I'll go make the hot chocolate.

I'm sure Louie will have a great answer, straight from that most accurate of texts, the bible.
Posted by I Has a Beer :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 08:03pm
Heh, I'll wager I know the answer.
Posted by Muh Dikk :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 07:22pm
It be because muh dikk be gittin what it whant. Dat be white wimminz. Word. Yo. Git down wit it foo.
Posted by hmmmm :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 08:52pm
I agree with all the posters who hate or dislike the blacks. You simply have to let history speak for itself. Look at some of the worlds most famous serial killers, rapists and mass murderers: Berkowitz, Bundy, Gein, Dahmer, Gacy, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot....the list goes on.
And every single one of them was blac.... oh ... wait a minute.....
Posted by E_B_A :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 08:29pm
No, really. You can't prove that race exists. From a science perspective the dilineations end at the special level. Even breeds, in other species, are not known for any mental superiority from breed to breed and each breed is fully able to mate with any other. In fact, that's one of the dominate proofs of speciation vs. breed.

If we had such a concept that was legitimate, breed comes the closest but it only establishes certain phyiscal characteristics which are arguably better or worse. However, anyone who studies genetics can tell you flat out that only with pure-bred specimins do you perpetuate genetic mutations.

Ergo, pure-bred specimens are not to be prized but rather removed to dilute the blood line and produce varied specimens.

Eugenics was disproved over fifty years ago as a valid concept for creating quality hybrids for this very reason.

Seriously, the very concept of race is so dated it's hard not to look down on anyone who buys into that bullshit as being anything less than stupid.

But hey, aside from the bulk of science and fact, I'm sure you guys can bring something new to the table, right?
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 09:53pm
Seriously, the very concept of race is so dated it's hard not to look down on anyone who buys into that bullshit as being anything less than stupid.
Word, homes.
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 10:06pm
America, Canada, Europe and the rest of the "white" world enjoys a standard of living that can only be described as opulent relative to living standards elsewhere, and all of it is based on the exploitation of others outside of "our" world, with most of those others being people of different races. We steal their land, we bomb their homes, we steal their resources, we kidnapped them as slave labour, we force them to work for pennies an hour so we can pocket a few extra dollars in our pension plans. We meddle in their political affairs to keep their countries unstable so we can have easier access to their resources, whether those resources are cheap labour, strategic geopolitical locations for our military bases, diamonds, oil, natural gas, minerals or whatever else we happen to want today.

Our entire way of life is based on racism, hatred and the exploitation of people of different colour.

But is that enough for these racists? That we treat our livestock with far more respect and dignity than we treat several billion human beings? Not by a longshot. They're so overwhelmingly self-entitled, so limitlessly greedy that being on top of the pecking order at someone else's expense simply isn't enough for them.

It's not enough for these racists that our race has been crapping all over every other race on the planet for centuries, or that our greed is the cause of most of the poverty and suffering of those other races. It's not enough that billions of people suffer so they don't have to. It's not enough that for each and every individual white racist, hundreds or thousands of men, women and children of different races are doing without so that one racist can consume at will.

No. Racists have to hate on the basis of race, too. It's not enough to rob everyone who isn't white. It's not enough to deny them anything even vaguely resembling human dignity, or a decent life. They have to continue the process and rob them of their humanity, too.

If that's not "nice", my apologies. Why you decent folk are still wasting your time conversing with these greedy, self-entitled sociopaths is beyond me. As Bill Maher put it, "don't become so tolerant that you'll tolerate intolerance". Racists forfeit their right to be considered members of the human race quite voluntarily, unlike their targets, whose only "crime" is their birth.
Posted by Comrade Ottorino Yamamoto :: :: :: Jun 07, 2007 11:53pm
No. Racists have to hate on the basis of race, too. It's not enough to rob everyone who isn't white. It's not enough to deny them anything even vaguely resembling human dignity, or a decent life. They have to continue the process and rob them of their humanity, too.
Nicely put. Mind you, not one of the morans posting will be able to make head or tail out of it, but I appreciate it.

If that's not "nice", my apologies. Why you decent folk are still wasting your time conversing with these greedy, self-entitled sociopaths is beyond me. As Bill Maher put it, "don't become so tolerant that you'll tolerate intolerance". Racists forfeit their right to be considered members of the human race quite voluntarily, unlike their targets, whose only "crime" is their birth.
Kinda hard to do a direct action on someone hiding behind a computer somewhere, now innit? :)

I has the goddam APPLE again. I'm being discriminated against on the basis of my Operating System! I demand Tux!
Posted by jman :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 12:02am
I has the goddam APPLE again. I'm being discriminated against on the basis of my Operating System! I demand Tux!
Penguins are both black and white, and if the advertising is to be believed, they stand united for Linux. Poor, discriminated-against penguins. At least they're getting some airtime from Hollywood these days, even if they are being exploited for commercial gain.

Speaking of penguins, I was just thinking of South African penguins. They're both black AND white. It must've driven the racists crazy when they went to the beach during apartheid.
Posted by Amy Bo Bamy :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 10:48am
*stands up and applauds*
Posted by RainDaemon :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 01:25am
I know our family history back the 1500's. My grandmother was into geneology and I have seen the charts. In other wordsTHERE IS NO NIGGER IN MY WOOD PILE

Oh me! i'm CONVINCED!

Seriously, apart from what redraven had to say on the subject, what about before the 1500's? Besides...
Yes we are all linked to one mother Eve and she was white as was her husband Adam who was also white

...i Told you to disregard my argument if you're a creationist.
Berkowitz, Bundy, Gein, Dahmer, Gacy, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot....the list goes on.

You left out quite a few but i think we get the point.
Even if we consider your (bullshit) argument that blacks tend to be super-violent sex-crazed murderers, then by the same argument we can say that whites tend to be greedy, gluttonous and self-serving to the point where death, destruction and suffering has occurred on a grand scale. All the major wars of our time, all the most vile weapons devised - them be made by white folks.


Speaking of penguins, I was just thinking of South African penguins. They're both black AND white. It must've driven the racists crazy when they went to the beach during apartheid.

Yes, well, every now again there was an oil spill and they'd all get black - so we'd round them up and scrub them until they were white again. (and they'd just lay right off the whiskey at this point)
Besides - the beaches were full of these.
Posted by flaunted :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 07:42am
i suggest all of these "blacks are inferior," "blacks are a different species" people take a read.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 09:09am
That article caused several things in my brain to rotate about 6 degrees clockwise and click into place. Very interesting stuff.
Posted by RainDaemon :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 09:18am
i Can certainly agree with that - its a well written article.
i Must say though, that post at the bottom (the CAPS-LOCK lunatic) was somewhat WTF-inspiring.

Incidentally, Ryland - has any other topic generated as many posts on your site as this one? Quite an interesting topic.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 11:06am
I made a page a while back that shows the most active threads.
Posted by redraven :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 12:51pm
Thanks flaunted. This is an article I probably wouldn't have come across in my internet ramblings, and it is a facinating one! I agree with Ryland - it definitely made me shift some ideas around in my head.

Great addition to the thread.
Posted by louisfarakoon :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 03:07pm
We seem to be straying from the facts that niggers are not human but feral beasts roaming my world and breathing my air. I recently went to Yahoo Answers and posted a question.
What would happen to the blacks if the white man disappeared. In a sense, Total Kaos, Bedlam, and anarchy within 12 hours
Posted by Mermaid :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 03:24pm
You know...you had your 15 minutes of fame. Please go back to the rock you crawled out from under.
Posted by Ryland :: :: :: Jun 08, 2007 03:26pm
Thread's closed. I think we've chewed this one down to the bones.